JshWright 10 years ago

I love Cliff Stoll so much... I hope one day to be as passionate about _something_ as he seems to be about everything...

If you haven't read The Cuckoo's Egg, I'd highly recommend it. It details his experience tracking down one of the first "hackers" back in the 80's, when he was a sysadmin for Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory.

  • sp332 10 years ago

    There's a one-hour long NOVA episode about that story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcKxaq1FTac

    • saboot 10 years ago

      I'm only three minutes in and I'm already loving this. Thanks for sharing

    • _qbww 10 years ago

      Thanks for sharing that. I had seen the Klein bottles under his workshop video awhile back, but I had no idea how deep this rabbit hole went.

  • Ductapemaster 10 years ago

    It really is a fantastic story. I can't recommend it enough.

  • teh_klev 10 years ago

    I read it when it was first published, twice in the same week I bought it. It's was a really good story. Sadly I lost my copy, possibly due to lending it to someone.

  • smoyer 10 years ago

    I've got an old copy and have read it through twice ... and it's currently sitting in my bosses office waiting for him to read it.

    I'd say that it's one of my two favorite non-fiction books (the other being "Surely You're Joking Mr. Feynman").

  • smrq 10 years ago

    That's amazing-- I had both read that book and seen a few of his appearances on Numberphile, but I never connected the two.

    This same phenomenon happened to me not long ago actually, when I discovered that two of my all-time favorite bands shared a guitarist (Greg Edwards of Failure and Autolux). Is there a term for discovering that two people you know of are actually one and the same? I find it to be a rare pleasure-- you can almost feel the mental connections linking themselves together, and afterwards the world feels like a smaller, more logical place.

  • jrk_ 10 years ago

    > I hope one day to be as passionate about _something_ as he seems to be about everything...

    The last time I've been so passionate about something was when I was around 10 or 12. Since then I've trained myself to be (and act) not so passionate anymore, because it'll make you look like a weirdo to most people. However, it brought me to a point where it's hard for me to get excited about anything at all, not to speak of expressing it properly...

hgibbs 10 years ago

Funny story. I saw this video yesterday morning, about an hour before my topology exam. One of the questions involved calculating the Euler poincare characteristic of a 3 fold sum of RP2. Unfortunately, I had forgotten the formula for the case of m-fold sums of RP2 but I knew that it was linear in m and that the Euler poincare characteristic of RP2 was 1. Luckily, I remembered a Klein bottle is homeomorphic to the 2-fold sum of RP2. Having seen this video and knowing the cell complex structure of a mobius band ended up being enough for me to derive the answer.

  • waqf 10 years ago

    You could also have used the fact that S² is homeomorphic to the 2-fold sum of S².

  • copperx 10 years ago

    I want to be like you when I grow up.

    • hgibbs 10 years ago

      I had a really bad day. Cheers man you have no idea how much that means to me.

HCIdivision17 10 years ago

Just because there has to be an obligatory link to his phenomenal website:

http://www.kleinbottle.com/

Cliff Stoll has to be one of the most genuine and wonderful mad engineers out there. His work is just one gem of brilliant hackery after another.

lifeformed 10 years ago

Is a cut glass edge not sharp? It was hard to watch him run his finger along the edge like that.

  • Natsu 10 years ago

    That depends on whether it has been seamed or has edgework. It's incredibly sharp if nothing has been done to it, enough so that merely touching glass edges can cause cuts. Glass is normally seamed before tempering, but that doesn't leave it perfectly smooth either. I've gotten glass splinters from it, along with finding edges that didn't get seamed well, though most sharp edges will break in the tempering furnace (this is why you seam glass prior to tempering). Glass splinters are as horrible as you might imagine and can take weeks to work themselves out, as well as being ridiculously hard to see.

    So yeah, I don't recommend the practice if you're not sure, but it may be okay for glass that has had edgework done as this glass gets polished smooth, whereas tempered glass is probably okay, but not always safe.

    EDIT: Looks like it's blown glass. No, that's not very safe.

    • DHJSH 10 years ago

      I expected his finger to be bleeding after he picked it up. I'm wondering if it's just a property of the diamond saw, or he likes to live dangerously.

      • DannyBee 10 years ago

        Having a cut a ton of stuff with diamond saws, the edge they leave is very abraded, and rarely sharp.

        This is not surprising, since it's basically like cutting it with 60-180 grit sandpaper

        • Natsu 10 years ago

          You're probably right that the edge isn't so sharp, though I note that his finger was higher above it than it looked, but I wouldn't underestimate glass splinters.

          Those really suck.

te 10 years ago

If someone does a remake of Back to the Future, Doc Brown should have a robotically-operated klein bottle warehouse under his house.

jbpetersen 10 years ago

Cliff is a wonderful, wonderful human being. He once did a series of free physics classes for middle schoolers in his garage. Learned how to measure the speed of light from him.

  • copperx 10 years ago

    He emits light?

tbabb 10 years ago

Sometimes I wonder what future, more evolved humans will be like. What traits will be emphasized?

I hope they look like this guy. Insatiably curious, extremely intelligent, endlessly productive, and effusively happy.

jlebar 10 years ago

I bought a small klein bottle from him some time ago, and it was worth it just for the papers it came with. Hours of laughter... So good.

gloves 10 years ago

Never seen this guy before, but I love him! So enthusiastic.

ubersync 10 years ago

How did I not know about Cliff Stoll until today?

  • baldfat 10 years ago

    Watch the video that is an hour long about him catching a hacker in the early 1980s

    • ubersync 10 years ago

      I already did. It is awesome. This guy has so much energy.

Magi604 10 years ago

I want a diamond saw.