Upvoter33 6 months ago

To whomever posted this, thank you. My father was from Turkey, and he often spoke longingly of his homeland. The images included here were transporting. I only wish he were still around so that I could sit there and thumb through them with him.

  • ChuvoniRobisi 6 months ago

    If you haven't gone before, you must visit!

onetimemanytime 6 months ago

For those that don't know, Turkey (Ottoman Empire) ruled for over 600 years over a very large empire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Empire Quite a few times they tried taking over proper Europe, like Italy (Pope was there) and Austria. They ruled the Balkans, Northern Africa, Saudi Arabia, Caucasus etc etc. They didn't invest anything in occupied areas but didn't directly force conversions to Islam. Conversions had a lot of benefits of course so quite a few people did over the centuries.

Eventually Russia and European powers did them in, empire was rotting for centuries...

(Turkey's Erdogan is now trying to be the Sunni leader, only to be opposed by Saudi Arabia, which was pwnd by the Turks for centuries.)

  • danans 6 months ago

    As an aside (while I'm enjoying my morning cuppa), the Ottomans, via their control of the world coffee trade in the 1600s, served as the conduit through which Europe and India learned of, and began drinking coffee, both around the same time.

    The full story is quite interesting, involving people risking death to subvert Ottoman attempts to protect their coffee monopoly's "Intellectual Property", which was fertile non-roasted coffee beans.

  • coldtea 6 months ago

    >but didn't directly force conversions to Islam

    Well, not for the general population. But they did it lots of times...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries

    "They began as an elite corps of slaves made up of kidnapped young Christian boys who were converted to Islam"

    • vertline3 6 months ago

      Also I think there was an extra tax for other abrahamic, and if you married into you had to convert.

  • dsfyu404ed 6 months ago

    >Eventually Russia and European powers did them in, empire was rotting for centuries...

    The Russian winter is the only major European power that has never lost a war.

    • onetimemanytime 6 months ago

      True, but they actually they fought mostly around the Black Sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Russo-Turkish_w... Several times both sides had allies...and eventually Russia helped the Balkan Orthodox states claim independence from the Ottomans. Death by a thousand cuts, but 600+ years is impressive.

      • dsfyu404ed 6 months ago

        Yeah, it was definitely a long slow decline. I prefer not to let facts get in the way of my jokes though.

        IIRC they got pwned pretty good by the Russian winter (well, the post-winter mud season) at some point in the 1500s(?) though.

  • theboywho 6 months ago

    The Ottoman Empire did not rule North Africa since they were never capable of conquering Morocco, they only got Algeria to join the empire since algeria was looking for protection from Spain.

    • onetimemanytime 6 months ago

      OK, all but one. Algeria or any other "Algeria" would have no chance against the Ottoman army. They kept coming and coming and coming...

  • thstart 6 months ago

    Didn’t force the Islam? You Sir are severely misinformed or you spread disinformation.

twic 6 months ago

I was surprised to see an enormous sign saying YORKSHIRE, although i suppose if a Yorkshireman put up a sign it would hardly be a small one. Having squinted at the pixels, i think it was probably an advert, or an office sign, for an insurance company:

https://heritage.aviva.com/our-history/companies/y/yorkshire...

There's another sign for an insurance company, Aachen & Munich, below it.

m00dy 6 months ago

Latin labels on the buildings are very interesting. Because, we switched to latin in 1928.

  • thewarpaint 6 months ago

    You mean to the Latin alphabet from the Arabic one, right?

billfruit 6 months ago

Is the full set of images available for viewing online by the general public or only for "Experts"?

  • rz2k 6 months ago

    From the comments to the article:

    > Annelisa Stephan on December 18, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    > You can browse all the photos at the following link: http://primo.getty.edu/GRI:GETTY_ALMA21118428440001551

    > Click the links to the right of the screen reading “Connect to digitized images of…” to browse the various series. From there, select an item by clicking the blue title link. Once you are in a record for an individual image or album, click the thumbnail image to the right of the screen to see it larger and, in the case of albums, page through the contents.

    • billfruit 6 months ago

      Very easy to miss seeing the image thumbnail, it appears on the extreme right, and if you don't scroll horizontally, not visible.

      • soperj 6 months ago

        Even with that description, I can't find it.

mnw21cam 6 months ago

Could someone who has actually bothered to read the article (unlike me) elucidate in what way the photographs have changed in meaning? Thanks.

  • simonh 6 months ago

    One way is through changes in context, by organizing them by origin and theme so that they contribute to a larger narrative. Another is through enriching them with metadata that would not be obvious from simply looking at the image.