points by mtgp1000 5 years ago

At some point people become enough of a liability that we collectively as a society have authorized the restriction of their rights.

This is a literally subversive movement. I'm not exaggerating or choosing a side. Watch the livestreams yourself - these people explicitly seek to subvert, dismantle, and replace modern "power structures" (intentionally left vague).

Whether you agree with what these people think they're fighting for, the system has safeguards against such insurrection.

xxpor 5 years ago

Give me a break. These aren't the Bolsheviks fighting the white army.

The dude in the video was never told where he was or why he was arrested. He didn't know he was in the federal courthouse until after he was released.

These guys don't even have badges ffs. If someone shot these guys, I don't see how that wouldn't be considered self-defense.

Let's see what DHS is complaining about:

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/07/16/acting-secretary-wolf-co...

A lot of broken windows, graffiti and fireworks. Real insurrection. Raise the army. Prepare the nukes.

  • blisseyGo 5 years ago

    > A lot of broken windows, graffiti and fireworks.

    Those are federal property and feds have full rights to do this. Also a lot of people who are being arrested are from another state. That's been the case for at least 45 days now. There's a point where the feds have to step in since the local people in that area are being terrorized. I have friends in that area and they are all planing to move out of the city because the Mayor, DA and Governor have been useless for a long time.

    • WalterGR 5 years ago

      I have friends in that area who feel perfectly safe and think the mayor, DA, and governor are doing fine. Other fiends of mine are moving there.

gruez 5 years ago

>At some point people become enough of a liability that we collectively as a society have authorized the restriction of their rights.

So tyranny of the majority is fine? I'm sure you can apply the same justification to what's happening in Xinjiang. Also, where's this "authorization" stemming from? Did we explicitly authorize it? Or was it implied by our inaction?

  • mtgp1000 5 years ago

    >So tyranny of the majority is fine

    Perhaps it is preferable to tyranny by the minority.

    >authorization" stemming from? Did we explicitly authorize it? Or was it implied by our inaction?

    Did you authorize the taxes you pay, or where they go? Isn't this the so called social contract?

    And please, my family fled true tyranny, I assure you nothing the US is doing is quite comperable to the CCP. Westerners don't know tyranny. They've grown so comfortable that they can take to the streets for weeks and complain about the very government that supports them.

    Try doing that in the USSR or any Chines state outside of Hong Kong or Taiwan.

TheSpiceIsLife 5 years ago

We have safeguards in place already that don’t require law enforcement kidnapping people.