Ask HN: Updates on Jetbrains Fleet?

83 points by sarahdellysse 2 years ago

It's been like half a year since it was first announced in closed beta; I never got an invite to the beta, and on occasion I look it up to see if it's ready for general consumption yet.

Those who are in the beta, what's your thoughts on this editor?

f311a 2 years ago

I think Jetbrains is busy relocating their staff.

  • nicce 2 years ago

    Founders are from Russia. They had a lot of staff as well?

    • tadfisher 2 years ago

      Most of their engineering team is/was in St. Petersburg.

    • f311a 2 years ago

      They had like 10 open positions in Russia for Fleet

      • bardworx 2 years ago

        I don’t believe they have any openings in Russia and they’ve moved their HQ to Prague.

        https://www.jetbrains.com/careers/jobs/

        • SemanticStrengh 2 years ago

          their HQ was already in prague ~IIRC

          • AdamGibbins 2 years ago

            Legally speaking yes, practically speaking however it was in St Petersburg. Their Prague office was tiny in comparison aiui, I wonder if they've since relocated.

            • f311a 2 years ago

              Yes, they have closed their Russian office and relocated a lot of people.

            • bardworx 2 years ago

              Thanks for the info, will have to look into it.

              It seems they did spent a bit of money to build a campus in St. Petersburg but with Russian tech exodus, not sure how that would work.

phlyingpenguin 2 years ago

I noticed earlier today that most of the Fleet documentation was last updated on May 2 and references "1.0", but it's pretty sparse for a release-ready documentation site.

https://www.jetbrains.com/help/fleet/getting-started.html

Edit: I don't expect this really means anything. The entire site seems to have been generated at once, and that was ~3 weeks ago.

  • cmeacham98 2 years ago

    Jetbrains at least originally said they're going to do an open beta before a true release, maybe that's what 1.0 is?

azeirah 2 years ago

Don't know much about Fleet, but their accompanying space project is slowly getting better and better!

I'm liking it a lot. It isn't something particularly great yet but I like having my own domain, I like having integration with Jetbrains products, I like my own repos in a not-so-public location, I like extremely-easy-to-set-up CI.

Gitlab checks most of these boxes too but.. Dunno, Space just feels more intuitive to me. Might be due to the docs being really solid.

swozey 2 years ago

It is very barebones, I can't use it as a full-time IDE yet.

  • xienze 2 years ago

    Yeah I’m on the beta and I was expecting something that could operate as a minimal Java IDE (they made lots of claims of it using the normal IntelliJ indexing and autocomplete engine), but I couldn’t get it to be much more than the equivalent of VS Code minus any compelling plugins.

  • ternaryoperator 2 years ago

    I'm on the beta and agree with this assessment. It's feature-thin presently, and many features barely work. IMHO they released it too early to beta, by which I mean that it's difficult to provide useful feedback when so many basic features don't work.

okaybuy 2 years ago

I have high hopes for this but I dont forsee anything being ready for a few years, Jetbrains moves at a snail pace - even when the threat radar is flashing alerts e.g. VsCode remote dev - today they are just barely getting their remote development story out of beta after flip flopping for several years on approach and half baked plugin inconsistent implementations

xvilo 2 years ago

I got access last month to the closed beta and it's indeed still very Barebones and buggy on Marcos. Although, they seem to be pretty active on the bug tracker, I think it will take some serious time before its ready.

linuxftw 2 years ago

I just tried it. Can't 'goto definition' for dependencies for Go or Python, so that function is almost useless for those languages IMO.

champagnepapi 2 years ago

As a PYCharm and Datagrip user, excited to hear updates :)