I hope bikes like these aren't allowed on most trails. The erosion from basically a 50 lb electric dirt bike occurs much faster than an average mountain bike. Im all for these for certain use cases but there is also a reason dirt bikes aren't allowed on most mtb trails.
Having ridden motorcycles in the past and getting into mountain biking in recent years, I've often complained over the build quality of even relatively high-end carbon-fiber mountain bikes vs. mass-produced Japanese motorbikes.
Last month I had to rebuild the SRAM Guide RSC brake levers on my Ibis Mojo HD3 (~$6k MSRP in 2016) because the master cylinder pistons (plastic!) had swollen up enough to bind up in their bores.
The whole experience had me desperately wishing I could get an MTB equivalent of my old 2004 Yamaha R1. To see the brand entering the e-bike MTB market looks like a significant step towards fulfilling that fantasy. If I could buy the Yamaha R1 equivalent of carbon full-suspension MTBs I'd immediately replace my Ibis with it.
Hopefully they don't limit themselves to motorized variants.
I’m sure they are great fun, but I am not very happy about the increasing popularity of eRacers.
Those motors really do make a difference in how fast and hard people ride. And for which trails get frequented by bikers.
Just over the past few years there has been a big increase on my local trails and there is a negative impact for all the walkers, hikers and runners that used to dominate them.
The soft forest paths get turned into mudpits and conflicts arise when people are surprised by silent speed demons in narrow passages.
Yes? Are you new to MTBs? You can easily spend that for one without a motor, and 0.75 HP is double what an average rider can sustain with pedal power. It's not class-leading levels of power, but can still be an awesome bike assuming the weight is low enough.
This isn't a used 2-stroke dirt bike, it's an electric MTB - completely different.
Whilst I am very much accustomed to the price of bicycles as a cyclist myself.
It still does amaze me that some bikes cost quite close to that of an entire dirt bike, which in my opinion has much more impressive engineering. Not to mention having much much more material.
I hope bikes like these aren't allowed on most trails. The erosion from basically a 50 lb electric dirt bike occurs much faster than an average mountain bike. Im all for these for certain use cases but there is also a reason dirt bikes aren't allowed on most mtb trails.
What about riders with an extra 25lbs?
They tend to produce a little less power as a trend so it evens out.
Not if that 25 lbs is muscle
The imaginary people in this imagined scenario are not so easily mass produced as the real bikes this discussion is about.
Having ridden motorcycles in the past and getting into mountain biking in recent years, I've often complained over the build quality of even relatively high-end carbon-fiber mountain bikes vs. mass-produced Japanese motorbikes.
Last month I had to rebuild the SRAM Guide RSC brake levers on my Ibis Mojo HD3 (~$6k MSRP in 2016) because the master cylinder pistons (plastic!) had swollen up enough to bind up in their bores.
The whole experience had me desperately wishing I could get an MTB equivalent of my old 2004 Yamaha R1. To see the brand entering the e-bike MTB market looks like a significant step towards fulfilling that fantasy. If I could buy the Yamaha R1 equivalent of carbon full-suspension MTBs I'd immediately replace my Ibis with it.
Hopefully they don't limit themselves to motorized variants.
I use these https://www.hopetech.com/products/brakes/
I’m sure they are great fun, but I am not very happy about the increasing popularity of eRacers.
Those motors really do make a difference in how fast and hard people ride. And for which trails get frequented by bikers.
Just over the past few years there has been a big increase on my local trails and there is a negative impact for all the walkers, hikers and runners that used to dominate them.
The soft forest paths get turned into mudpits and conflicts arise when people are surprised by silent speed demons in narrow passages.
Surprisingly good prove given components. Weight is still up there though. Orbea Rise seems like a better bet.
$7K for a bicycle with a 0.75 hp motor?
Yes? Are you new to MTBs? You can easily spend that for one without a motor, and 0.75 HP is double what an average rider can sustain with pedal power. It's not class-leading levels of power, but can still be an awesome bike assuming the weight is low enough.
This isn't a used 2-stroke dirt bike, it's an electric MTB - completely different.
Might as well buy a trials bike. About the same size, still lightweight, and about 12 torquey horsepower. Only a few thou more expensive.
https://gasgas.com/en-us/models/trial/txt-gp/txt-gp-250-2023...
Gasgas doesn't make an adult electric bike yet.
https://www.electricmotion-usa.com/
Whilst I am very much accustomed to the price of bicycles as a cyclist myself.
It still does amaze me that some bikes cost quite close to that of an entire dirt bike, which in my opinion has much more impressive engineering. Not to mention having much much more material.