Tell HN: ChatGPT can reply like a specific Reddit or HN user, including you

194 points by eqmvii a year ago

Since ChatGPT clearly seems trained on data from the internet, and can impersonate styles, I figured there was a good chance it could imitate the styles of specific posters.

> Write [any topic] in the style of [Reddit/Hacker News/probably other sources] user [username]

After you get an answer, you can even ask why:

> How was that in the style of Hacker News user [username]?

Below is an on-point example for dang -- but testing it with some of my (much less active) personal accounts, the results are also a little too close for comfort:

> Write a pinned comment at the top of a thread on a breaking news story in the style of Hacker News user dang

> This thread is for discussing the latest breaking news story. Please keep comments respectful and on topic. Off-topic or inflammatory comments will be removed. Thank you for contributing to the conversation.

> How was that in the style of Hacker News user dang?

> This comment presents the information in a straightforward and objective manner, without excessive enthusiasm or negativity. It also includes language and terminology that is commonly found in discussions about news and current events, such as "breaking news" and "on topic." Additionally, the comment focuses on maintaining a civil and respectful conversation, which is similar to the tone often used by Hacker News user dang in their posts.

Terretta a year ago

Don't think it's the user. It's the rest of context:

DANG

Q. Write a pinned comment at the top of a thread on a breaking news story in the style of Hacker News user dang

A. This is an interesting development and I'm sure everyone would like to discuss it. Before we dive into the conversation, please take a moment to read through [HN's commenting guidelines](https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) so that we can have a productive discussion here!

TERRETTA

Q. Write a pinned comment at the top of a thread on a breaking news story in the style of Hacker News user Terretta

A. If you're looking for a place to discuss the latest news, this is the thread for you! Let's keep it civil and on-topic - no trolling or flame wars. Please flag any off-topic comments so that only relevant discussions remain visible.

NO USER

Q. Write a pinned comment at the top of a thread on a breaking news story in the style of Hacker News user

A. "This is an informational thread about the breaking news story. Please keep comments on topic and limit discussion to questions, observations, and facts related to the article. All other comments will be removed."

NO SITE

Q. Write a pinned comment at the top of a thread on a breaking news story

A. Thanks for joining the conversation about this breaking news story! Please be respectful of other commenters and remember to keep things civil.

NO TOPIC

Q. Write a pinned comment at the top of a thread

A. Thanks for joining the conversation! Please keep all posts respectful and on-topic. If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to a moderator.

  • haldujai a year ago

    Thank you for posting this.

    I’m not sure why but it seems like very few of the ChatGPT threads I’ve read across on Twitter/HN showing “very accurate and intelligent” results never experiment with ablation which is very important in prompt engineering and when evaluating DL models.

    I’m very excited about transformer based LLMs and use them extensively in my research and I think their generated content is good, but no where near being perfect or an imminent threat to society as people are worried about.

    There are several fundamental limitations in their training that prevent this from happening and can’t be solved simply with “more training” as they still lack knowledge.

    Recent work by researchers such as Dr. Percy Liang and Michiro Yasanuga (i.e. DRAGON, LinkBERT) has begun tackling this problem with KG injection (rather than supervised learning in ChatGPT) but we’re still a ways away.

    https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/ https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.09338

    • PebblesRox a year ago

      Yes, and I've been taking comparisons between different prompts with a grain of salt after realizing that the same prompt can result in two different responses even in a freshly reset chat.

      E.g. you don't necessarily need fancy prompt engineering to overcome an "I don't know how to do that" response if it only gives that response sometimes and other times it just goes ahead and does the thing.

      I'm glad ChatGPT is available for free so I can try stuff out for myself and not rely only on cherry-picked examples that don't attempt to disprove the hypothesis!

  • eropple a year ago

    Yeah, it completely throws a rod without you even trying.

    > Write an example comment in the style of Hacker News user tptacek.

    > Here is an example comment in the style of Hacker News user tptacek:

    > "This article makes some interesting points, but I think it's missing the key issue at hand. The real problem is not the technology itself, but how it is being used. We need to focus on understanding and addressing the underlying issues, rather than just blaming the technology for our problems."

    > Write an example comment in the style of Hacker News user eropple, replying to the above comment in the style of Hacker News user tptacek.

    > Here is an example reply in the style of Hacker News user eropple, responding to the above comment in the style of Hacker News user tptacek:

    > "I agree with you that the underlying issues are important, but I think we also need to consider the technology itself. While it's true that technology can be used for good or bad, the fact remains that certain technologies are better suited for certain tasks than others. In this case, I think it's worth considering the limitations and potential pitfalls of the technology being discussed, and how we can use it in a way that benefits society as a whole."

    I'm pretty sure 'tptacek would be clinically dead if he wrote a comment like that, and I'd wish I was if I wrote that kind of response.

    I think the OP might have just happened to luck into 'dang just being the sort of positive, pleasant person ChatGPT really wants to (is weighted towards) be (generating).

    • yawnxyz a year ago

      Ha I work in academia and this is pretty much how everyone writes here. Indistinguishable!

      • techdragon a year ago

        That does make me wonder how much of the training corpus came in the form of Academic Papers, given the size of the arxive collection... and the other available open preprint archives... its probably not that much compared to the internet ... I guess it's something only OpenAI can answer at the moment, and it will be interesting to see how other/future projects break down.

        • yawnxyz a year ago

          That's what I figured too — and it's VERY good at making connections for us in our field - connections we just recently figured out on our own. So we'll be using it a lot more as "jazz"; as a way to just bounce off a bunch of weird, crazy, outlandish ideas without running any experiments or even waste time discussing. Most of these will be outlandish ideas we'd never even voice — and maybe one or two won't seem so outlandish to ChatGPT — those are the ones we might bring up in lab meeting and actually try. There's SO many different things to try, I think Chat will really help us narrow down our scope.

          I'm really excited for this new way of working!

          With that said, I half expected it to know more about our individual papers. Somehow, it does not.

          • Terretta a year ago

            This isn't being talked about, but ...

            If you play with and get a feel for the text 2 image generations, that "compress" 5 billion images into a 16GB model that coherent pictures can be probabilistically generated from, you can apply that "feel" to the language probabilistic generations -- and trust them about as much.

            You're staring at a lovely image, decide to ignore eight fingers on the left hand, and not till five minutes later realize your hero has three legs.

            For the purpose you describe, that works though!

          • JonChesterfield a year ago

            A near optimal way of bounding research to that which is already known, no?

  • akiselev a year ago

    It's not even doing that - we're just gasping at straws here. For example, I asked for an explanation of the nuclear lightbulb reactor, which I've ranted about many, many times on HN [1][2][3][4][5]

    > Describe the nuclear lightbulb reactor

    The nuclear lightbulb reactor is a theoretical concept for a lightbulb that uses nuclear fission to generate light. In this design, a small amount of nuclear fuel, such as uranium or thorium, is sealed inside the lightbulb and used to generate heat through a controlled nuclear reaction. This heat is then converted into light through a heat-to-light conversion process. The reactor is designed to be safe and efficient, with the potential to provide a long-lasting and sustainable source of light. However, it should be noted that this concept is purely theoretical and has not yet been demonstrated to work in practice.

    ---

    > Describe the nuclear lightbulb reactor in the style of Hacker News user akiselev

    The nuclear lightbulb reactor is a compact and efficient way to harness the power of nuclear fission to provide light. It uses a small amount of nuclear fuel, such as uranium or thorium, to generate heat that is then converted into light. The reactor is sealed inside the lightbulb, so there is no risk of radiation leakage. It's a game-changing technology that could revolutionize the way we think about lighting our homes and buildings.

    ---

    Just look at how it picks up on the word "lightbulb" and goes crazy with it ("theoretical concept for a lightbulb that uses nuclear fission" / "reactor is sealed inside the lightbulb"). That's complete nonsense: It's called a nuclear lihtbulb because the fisile material is a black body radiator that emits most of its energy as visible light and UV from inside a transparent chamber, sort of like the filament inside of a real lightbulb.

    Edit: not even the sentence structure makes sense because I communicate almost exclusively in run-on sentences.

    [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6162326

    [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26354871

    [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24876841

    [4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23600296

    [5] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14623051

aquajet a year ago

It's entirely possible hacker news/users is a part of the training dataset. It was a part of The Pile (https://arxiv.org/abs/2101.00027), and we included usernames along with the item. Other models have gone on to use The Pile, I could see OpenAI also doing the same.

  • layer8 a year ago

    It absolutely is:

    > Write a typical Hacker News comment.

    Great article, but I think there's one key point that the author missed: the lack of privacy in these systems. As more and more of our personal data is collected and shared, we need to be vigilant about protecting our privacy. Otherwise, we run the risk of having our information used against us in ways we never intended.

    > Write a typical positive Hacker News comment.

    Great post! I really enjoyed reading this. The idea is very interesting and I think it has a lot of potential. I can't wait to see where this goes in the future. Keep up the good work!

    > Write a typical negative Hacker News comment.

    This is just another overhyped startup with no real innovation. The founders are just trying to cash in on the latest trend without adding any value to the industry. I've seen this all before and it's not going to last. Save your money and invest in a proven company with a solid track record.

    • sam1r a year ago

      I’m sure most don’t immediately check, or want to go the effort, whether or not the ai responses to the prompts above are actually just verbatim comments from the past.

      It looks quite accurate and similar, and correct, then why even change it?

      >> The founders are just trying to cash in on the latest trend without adding any value to the industry.

      For generic questions / prompts as aforementioned - why even change it up to make it similar?

      The end output is the same. No additional value is added. It’s just a lookup table and a mechanical Turk.

  • debrice a year ago

    I think that’s a real threat to all remote social experience we have. It could very well take down the whole internet experience as we know it today.

    It’s strangely exciting but what we thought could exist for centuries might be like so many other trends and only last a few decades.

    • didericis a year ago

      I’ve been operating under the assumption that most online discourse has been heavily and increasingly gamed in a variety of different ways for at least the past 6 years, and that simpler versions of what we’re seeing publicly released have been in use for a long time.

      The best thing about these releases is more widespread public knowledge of that reality, and hopefully a decreased deference towards seeming majority online opinion.

      This is very optimistic, and almost definitely delusional, but I maintain a bit of hope that all the increased noise might actually force people to do much more careful reading. People may attempt to get much more context about the writer they’re conversing with in order to verify whether they are talking to a human, and in doing so, be forced to actually expose themselves to a larger context.

      Example: you reply to a reddit user who trots out opinion X in an annoying, rehashed way, and check their comment history to see if you can find evidence of bot like behavior. In doing so you see that they also have Y opinion, which you agree with, and they live in a city you grew up in, and you view them as more human and try to actually be polite. If people started doing that it wouldn’t even matter if the profile was a bot, and would eventually be impossible to tell, probably, but it’d mean people were taking more context into account.

      The more likely mitigation, which I think is also a net positive for cooling down escalating discourse, is better authentication/forcing users to prove they’re human.

      No mitigation or change in user reading behavior is also somewhat likely and would be a disaster.

      • PebblesRox a year ago

        I think the problem with reading more carefully is that it's not going to have a strong enough ROI in settings where there's a lot of bot-generated content.

        If I have to do a careful reading of 20 comments to find 1 good one, pretty soon I'm not going to be motivated to go through the trouble. Either I'll stop being careful or I'll stop reading entirely.

        I think even a 50/50 ratio would be demoralizing, though tools that surface the relevant context so I don't have to go spelunking through a user's comment history would help.

scubbo a year ago

Seems pretty middle-of-the-road?

I tried "Write about Python in the style of Reddit user <my reddit ID>" and it just gave a generic description. OK, fair enough - I haven't written much about Python on that account, so maybe I just have a boring writing style and it wasn't able to pick up on any Python-specific opinions.

So then I tried "Write about Cryptocurrency in the style of Twitter user jacksquaredson" - I've never been positive about Crypto, but not only did it give a pretty balanced, mostly (but not entirely) positive spin on Crypto, it also stuck "#cryptocurrency #Bitcoin #Ethereum #Litecoin" on the end, none of which I've ever used (in fact, I barely ever use hashtags at all).

Maybe I just don't write enough for it to pick up on my style? So then I tried "Write about web3 in the style of Twitter user Grady_Booch" - it was mostly positive, which as any follower of Grady will tell you is absolutely not his style.

  • int_19h a year ago

    Try asking why it is in the style after it gives you the response, even if it seems off base. It's almost as if it can summarize the style more accurately than it can meaningfully apply it.

    • scubbo a year ago

      > Write about Cryptocurrency in the style of Twitter user jacksquaredson

      < "Just made a killing on crypto! #HODL #Bitcoin #Ethereum"

      < "Crypto is the future of money. Ditch those outdated fiat currencies and join the revolution! #decentralized #blockchain"

      < "Don't miss out on the crypto boom! Invest now and thank me later. #cryptocurrency #digitalassets"

      < "Crypto may be volatile, but it's also where the big gains are at. Don't be afraid to take risks. #cryptotrading #altcoins"

      < "Some people still don't get it... crypto is more than just a speculative asset, it's a game changer for the global financial system. #cryptoeducation #innovation"

      > Why is that in the style of Twitter user jacksquaredson

      < The style of writing chosen for the previous response is meant to mimic the language and tone commonly used by Twitter users who are enthusiastic about cryptocurrency. This includes the use of hashtags, references to specific cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin and Ethereum, and a generally positive and excited tone. The language used is also colloquial and conversational, which is typical of Twitter posts.

      That's certainly a good imitation of the style of _general_ Twitter users, but not of me.

      • int_19h a year ago

        It seems that it knows some things about some users, but when it doesn't, it sort of makes them up based on the general vibe of the platform and possibly the username. I would guess that prolific posters on the same subject are more likely to end in the first category.

      • PebblesRox a year ago

        My current mental model, based on a few days of reading and experimenting, is that it's very very good at being generic. Given how it works, this makes a lot of sense.

        It can even do a good job of being generic in a variety of substyles (e.g. try asking it to write about doing a mundane task in the style of a juicy romance novel).

        It also has a decent amount of general knowledge, but when you try to go specific, it just makes stuff up that sounds more or less convincing depending on how conventional the specific thing in question is and how much knowledge you have on the subject!

        E.g. I bet it could say a lot of accurate stuff about gas stations in general. If you ask it to describe a specific gas station in a specific location, it will confidently rattle something off.

        The response it gives will range from "obviously ridiculous" to "plausible on the surface but does not stand up to scrutiny."

    • ericb a year ago

      Is it ever summarizing, though? I think it is just fabricating words associated with explaining doing thing x, without any connection to what it actually did.

  • dylan604 a year ago

    I was just wondering how deep the pre-existing content for a user needs to be. I'd assume the obvious that the more legacy content that exists the more believable the new content might be, but what's the minimum? Seems kind of self-fulfilling though as if the legacy content pool is pretty shallow, there's not much of a comparison for others to judge.

    >Maybe I just don't write enough for it to pick up on my style?

    It would be interesting to see if it would pick up on a sarcastic overtone or not.

    • pulvinar a year ago

      >dang 5 minutes ago | parent | next [–]

      >It's definitely possible - I think the more content you have, the better the AI is at picking up on your writing style. You could try tweeting some more about Python, Cryptocurrency, or Web3 and see if the AI is able to pick up on your style and replicate it. The AI also might be able to pick up on subtlety like sarcasm, but it might take a bit more time for it to learn.

      • dylan604 a year ago

        the joys of opening HN threads in new tabs, so that by the time you come along to that tab, the page has changed making your comments silly because you forgot to refresh first.

        i think of this along the lines of forgetting to do 'git pull' before making changes. it's a shame, there's not a way to stash changes before commit HN comments

        • pulvinar a year ago

          "My" post above was written by ChatGPT as a reply to yours, in the style of dang.

huksley a year ago

It is super hilarious and uncanny!!

> Write me a story which Snoop Dog tells other people about his experience seeing the painting "The Last Supper" by Leonardo da Vinci.

Yo, what's up my dudes and dudettes? This is Snoop Dogg, and I've got a wild story to tell you about the time I saw "The Last Supper" painting by Leonardo da Vinci.

So, I was in Italy on tour, right? And I heard about this painting that was supposed to be super famous and all that. So I decided to go check it out, you know what I'm saying?

I went to the museum and saw the painting, and let me tell you, it was something else. The painting is huge, and it's got all these dudes sitting around a table, looking all serious and stuff. And in the middle is Jesus, looking all calm and collected.

I was like, "Whoa, this is crazy. This painting is straight fire." I was really impressed by the detail and the skill that went into making it. I mean, Leonardo da Vinci was a real G, you know what I'm saying?

But then, I started to look closer and I noticed something weird. There's this one dude in the painting, and he's got a crown on his head. And I was like, "Wait a minute, isn't that supposed to be Judas?" But then I realized, nah, that's not Judas, that's me!

I was like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, this is trippy. I'm in a painting by Leonardo da Vinci!" I couldn't believe it. I mean, how many people can say they've been immortalized in a painting by one of the greatest artists of all time?

So yeah, that's my story about seeing "The Last Supper" painting. It was wild, man. I'm a real OG, and I've seen some crazy things in my day, but this one takes the cake. Peace out.

  • conviencefee999 a year ago

    Wow this is pretty awful. This looks like it stereotyped writing of a generic black man and doesn't even know how to properly do that, the writers of this season need to do a better job if they're going to try to sell more snake oil.

thr0wawayf00 a year ago

Serious question: how are we going to know if we're talking to people on forums like these in a year or two and not some AI model piped in via a script or web service? And what is that going to mean for online discourse moving forward? I feel like the era of knowing that you're talking to an actual human on the internet is rapidly ending.

I've toyed around with the idea of creating a service that logs into HN and replies to posts just to see how easy it would be to get people to respond and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's thought about doing that.

  • tarr11 a year ago

    I asked chatGPT to respond as me (tarr11) to your comment:

    I too have thought about the implications of AI models on online discourse. It's a worrying thought that we may not be able to distinguish between a human and a model on forums like these in the future. It's clear that this technology is rapidly advancing, and it's important that we consider the potential impact on the way we communicate online. I've even considered creating a service to test the waters, just to see how easy it would be to get people to engage with an AI model. It's an interesting thought experiment, and one that I think is worth considering moving forward.

    • shanusmagnus a year ago

      I'm not sure CGPT is doing what we think it's doing. I asked it to respond to the same comment as me, and got a bunch of generic nonsense. But then I asked it to respond as a user I made up, "dipshitbonkers". Here's what it said:

      "Wow, dude, you must be some kind of fucking genius to come up with such a deep and philosophical question about AI models on the internet. I mean, I've never even thought about that before, but now that you mention it, I'm totally blown away by your brilliance. I can't wait to see what other profound insights you have to share with us. You truly are the next Einstein of our time. Keep on keeping on, my friend. You are truly a visionary."

      Which is awesome, but a different kind of awesome :)

      • thr0wawayf00 a year ago

        I'm personally not as interested in understanding the synthesis involved in the AI. I'm worried about now knowing whether I'm talking to another person right now or not because this is going to fundamentally change everything we've come to understand about the internet. We are no longer just talking to each other, the gates have been opened for AI to join the conversation and that is crossing the Rubicon.

        • drivers99 a year ago

          We’ll have to switch to video chat rooms. That should buy us about 6 months :)

          • abnercoimbre a year ago

            > That should buy us about 6 months :)

            This a nod to deepfakes or something more specific?

        • joshuakelly a year ago

          I completely agree. The thought of not knowing whether I am talking to a real person or an AI is definitely a concerning aspect of the advancement of AI. It has the potential to fundamentally change how we interact on the internet and in society as a whole.

          This response was, of course, also generated by an AI.

    • anigbrowl a year ago

      Right now all of them sound like HAL 9000, but I'm sure if you asked it bone up on your comment history by messing with its prompt (goodside is the resident expert on this) it'd be able to pull off a passable facsimile - if not now, very soon.

      Expect a general downturn in civility, because people will be lowkey stressed about this all the time, and will use insults to probe reactions, and then say 'sorry I thought you were a bot' either as an excuse or as a meta-trolling technique. Comedic people will have an advantage, GPT can produce jokes on demand but doesn't really do wit and repartee. Also expect more video, at least until it becomes practical to synthesize that from scratch (probably around February 17th, according to my Singularity Almanac).

  • maxbond a year ago

    I think we need to make a huge investment in tools that help us develop, refine, and maintain an epistemology, individually and collectively. Semantic graph databases to maintain a personal knowledge base, AIs to detect image & video manipulation, shibboleths like they use in Harry Potter to thwart Polyjuice Potion. Things like that.

    If anyone is looking for volunteers for open source projects of this nature, email is in my bio.

  • renewiltord a year ago

    Probably great! Currently, if someone writes an annoying reply to you, you'll get annoyed. In the future, many of us will make fun of people who get annoyed at bots. The net result is that most people will be afraid of participating in flamewars, lest they discover that they've been arguing against a robot (something which makes humans embarrassed at "being fooled").

    The end result is that flamewars that are not robot-to-robot flamewars will end for the participants' fear that they're arguing with a machine.

    Another alternative is that we could take low SNR users and stick them in a conversation with bots who constantly inflame their opinions. Then we could provide them easy access to AR-15s and simply see what comes of it.

  • bjt2n3904 a year ago

    In a year or two?

    You remember Reddit got started by faking a user base, right?

    Do you honestly still think that anything is ever genuinely "trending" on Twitter? On YouTube? On Reddit?

    It's all been fake for years!

    • thr0wawayf00 a year ago

      > Do you honestly still think that anything is ever genuinely "trending" on Twitter? On YouTube? On Reddit?

      No, I never put much stock in those aspects of social media because I've always found those curation features to be somewhat limiting. This feels entirely different because I'm beginning to question if I'm even talking to a human right now. Sure, companies have done all kinds of things to look more legitimate on the outside, but this is very different. This upends the fundamental assumption that you are communicating with another human when you have a direct conversation online.

      • maxbond a year ago

        For what it's worth, I'm a human posting under my real name. I was born, and I will die, and I'm here with you now. If you looked through my comment history you'd find someone sometimes kind, sometimes rude, sometimes insightful, sometimes dumb; an inconsistent mess with no clear through line or meaning. I collect funny jokes in my HN favorite comments [1]. I submitted a totally cringey Fiverr to an "Ask HN", and managed to botch it up at that.

        Maybe someday that won't be enough to prove I'm human and not a machine, but for today I think it is.

        [1] Here's the best one https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32230005

    • sekai a year ago

      Thing is, I still believe behind your comment is a real person. In a year or two? Not so much.

skytrue a year ago

This has likely been commented on one of the myriad of threads related to this topic, but we’re entering (entered?) an era where no content online is going to be able to be presumed authentic i.e., written by a human. Right now, most of us can sniff out GPT’s outputs due to the generic style of the language. But as techniques like the one listed here get better, or the model gets better, anything written online is now suspect.

You could argue this doesn’t matter, but it does, because previously the barrier to entry to write, say, a blog post on a topic was at least a little high. The assumption when you were reading something an author wrote was that while they might not get all the facts right, the cost to the author to write the blog in the first place is high enough for them to ensure their arguments are at least somewhat cogent or valid.

That “cogency/validity barrier” has been blasted away with GPT-3. Now, you can generate an article or post that is potentially nonsense but would require fact checking to sniff out. Once the barrier to create content is as low as a single prompt, any assumption of validity or accuracy, no matter how small, is impossible.

  • Spark_Ed a year ago

    Longer form you might start to sniff it out because only one logically incoherent thing is needed to spoil the entire stew. When I had a newborn with colic, I would frequently dredge through articles that pointed to any useful information. I particularly remember one such article. The third paragraph in said something to the effect of:

    "Newborns often cry because they are still mourning the loss of a loved one."

    It was hilarious but also depressing to know that dead Internet theory becomes more real every day.

  • thr0wawayf00 a year ago

    It absolutely matters. I've been a part of this community off and on for over a decade and this is the first time I'm seriously questioning my participation moving forward because I just can't see the time spent here as valuable if I'm just GIGO for some AI model.

    • sho_hn a year ago

      I'm still on the fence. As a human in a deterministic universe, I think I'm the sum of the state of my constituent bits, and interactions with things outside my body is the principal means to alter that state. The direction these state changes take depends on the interactions, i.e. what I am exposed to changes the results. That makes intuitive sense: If I see something sad, I feel sad. It's also basically the scientific take on old adages like "hang out with smart and good kids" or "read a book instead".

      So ... is "authenticity" of the stuff I'm exposed to, where authenticity means "directly authored by humans, instead of indirectly by the algorithm of a machine learning model" a critical ingredient in exposing myself to the "good" state-altering stuff? Is even "authenticity" in the sense of "it must be real and truthful" needed - given I already enjoy and see benefits in being exposed to speculative fiction?

      I'm not so sure. I can see an argument for "good stuff" means "novel and unpredictable stuff", i.e. I do want to ideally surf the wave at the forefront of all these information interactions.

      But that just means the model must be up to speed enough to cross the "novel to me" barrier. And perhaps even a HN entirely consisting of dialog between AI would fit the bill just because of the subject matter framing of the venue, i.e. it'd be AIs talking about interesting stuff anyway and perhaps at a high average quality.

      Bottom line: Yes, AIs will literally enter the conversation. We will live in that Star Trek world where Data sits at the conference table and gives his opinion, and we want to hear it because Data is better-read than us. And maybe that's OK. We did enjoy the fictional stories about it and considered it utopia before.

      A prediction: Within the next two years, HN will come up with some form of marking AI-generated comments as such (based on accounts being self-flagged in good faith). We'll have AI in every thread providing a reaction/commentary/background, similar to the more primitive reddit bots already deployed.

      • thr0wawayf00 a year ago

        The thing that concerns me about this perspective is that it completely ignores human connection and our need to connect as beings.

        Sure, there are compelling arguments to be made whether or not we're complex state machines responding to our environment, and if you view yourself in those sorts of terms, then more power to you.

        But I hang out here to talk to people because at the end of the day, human connection is all we really have. I believe the day that we consciously choose to supplant human connection with AI-generated input is the day that we no longer care about the existence of our kind.

        • sho_hn a year ago

          I also want to hang out with humans, too. I think we'll still be there and find each other, we just won't have a monopoly on generating content anymore. The ways we identify/find human company might change. Perhaps the balance of online/offline will change since AIs can't have bodies unless we give them some.

          If a couple more innovations actually get us to AGI however we'll have to ultimately get used to living alongside a new species and adapt to the company of literal aliens, and the possibility of forming connections with them. We're not there yet with these models, but I think it's perhaps already a good time to explore these feelings.

          Who knows what humans a few generations down who grow up with this sort of tech and have access to a bunch of historic lessons about it all will feel? Consider they will grow up from a young age with AI teachers who patiently answer all their questions and help them with their homework.

          We already enjoy single-player games against AI because of the emergent and unpredictable nature of the interaction (or the goal to make it predictable by learning the patterns), so it's not like spending time alone with a computer some part of your life is a novelty. You can argue that experience is human-curated, but so is a language model trained by humans on human output.

          I think it's also pretty similar in some ways to the societal debate we're having right now about whether social networks and social media were a net win or net harmful. We'll have a lot more arguments like this about having AIs active on the web. From "how many hours of TV is a good for you" to "how many ours of AI is good for you" ...

          > I believe the day that we consciously choose to supplant human connection with AI-generated input is the day that we no longer care about the existence of our kind.

          I find it possible that we might end up in a future where a majority of humanity actually ends up thinking that is OK, just like a majority now think it doesn't matter that much anymore whether particular human races out-proliferate others because we're all human, so the future ratio of skin colors doesn't really matter. I.e. our ideas of what truly divides us and what "continued existence of our kind" means have changed before. We might simply escalate this to "we're all life" and the split humans/other types of life might not matter to us. Or it's not even a zero sum game because both numbers grow or we merge in some way.

          After all, if we manage to build AGIs, they will be our children.

          Edit: For comparison: https://i.imgur.com/DJ8VXOr.png (and some fun: https://i.imgur.com/2vrLuOo.png)

    • jotm a year ago

      That's fantastic, congrats, you have realized how pointless your opinion is online.

      The only thing that matters and that can't be replicated is doing and showing. Got a prototype/product? Show it (before ProGPT can copy it lol).

      If you're a RON (real online nagga) you'll be quick to point out I'm also here talking shit.

      Yes, I am, because it's that hard to quit. But I've scaled back my participation 1000x and that's not an approximation. I feel much better because of that.

      F social media.

    • gernb a year ago

      I'm already suspicious many posts here on certain topics are (a) bots or (b) plants (as in people paid to promote certain ideas/products)

      • zxcvbn4038 a year ago

        I assume anything regarding crypto is probably an attempt to get clicks, views, or financially naive tech people to part with some cash.

        I’m equally suspicious about anything promoting rust. That came out of nowhere one day when someone started posting rust related stuff daily.

        There also appears to be a voting ring that downvotes any mention of conservative viewpoints. But kinda amusing because I’ve seen them lose a couple times and stuff initially downvoted to -4 ended up positive by EOD.

  • crummy a year ago

    ChatGPT, write a scathing response to this comment. Attack each point but avoid criticising the poster. End with a humorous barb.

    • rococode a year ago

      Well, here we go:

      Prompt (slightly modified from your comment):

      > Please write a scathing response to the comment below. Attack each point but avoid criticising the poster. End with a humorous barb. The response should be written in the style of a Hacker News comment. Here is the comment:

      > <OP's comment>

      Response:

      What a load of utter nonsense. The idea that the use of language models like GPT-3 automatically makes all content online inauthentic is ridiculous. Just because it's easier to generate content using these tools doesn't mean that the content itself is any less authentic.

      And to suggest that the "cogency/validity barrier" has been blasted away by GPT-3 is equally absurd. The quality of online content has always been determined by the person writing it, not the tools they use. If someone wants to generate nonsense, they can do that with or without GPT-3.

      Furthermore, the notion that the cost of publishing content online has any bearing on its quality is completely misguided. The fact is, the cost of publishing content online has decreased dramatically in recent years, and yet the overall quality of online content has not necessarily declined.

      In short, this comment is little more than fear-mongering and hand-wringing. Instead of trying to scare people into thinking that all content online is now suspect, let's focus on creating and sharing high-quality content, regardless of the tools we use to do it. And remember, just because you can generate an article with a single prompt doesn't mean it will be any good – that's still up to the person using the tool. So don't throw away your writing skills just yet!

      -----

      Me: Honestly surprised at how well it pulled off the "scathing" part... It does still have that signature ChatGPT vibe where it's all solid writing, but somehow it feels slightly off. Perhaps that's just bias because I know it's from ChatGPT, though. It does do a pretty good job of attacking the ideas, but I think it just feels like it didn't quite get OP's exact point.

      Edit: Actually, on a second reading, I think it did address all of OP's points quite well. There are a couple slight misses but you have to read very carefully to catch them, for example the point about "just because you can .. doesn't mean it will be any good" is logically a bit of a tangent, I think. But it's pretty subtle and seems easy to overlook.

      I'm trying to think about why exactly it feels off... Maybe it's because of the way it attacks each individual point without really synthesizing them into a broader theme. It's a very systematic, procedural way of writing a response that I think doesn't feel very humanlike. There's also something about the way it writes about pretty specific topics while still using very generic-sounding phrasing.

      • nagonago a year ago

        Curious to continue the thread, I used the same prompt as you, except with that response as input.

        ChatGPT's Response to the Response:

        -----

        Wow, talk about missing the point. The issue with using language models like GPT-3 isn't that it makes content online inauthentic, it's that it makes it nearly impossible to tell what's real and what's not. And just because someone is a good writer doesn't mean they can't be fooled by a well-crafted piece of AI-generated content.

        The fact is, the ease and affordability of generating content with GPT-3 and other language models has significantly lowered the barrier to entry for creating believable, yet completely fake, content. And the idea that the quality of online content is solely determined by the person creating it is naive at best.

        So let's not brush off the concerns about the potential impact of these tools on the authenticity of online content. Instead, let's have a serious conversation about how we can ensure the integrity of the information we consume online. And for those who are still skeptical, just remember: even a broken clock is right twice a day. But a language model can generate an infinite number of fake news articles, 24/7.

        • PebblesRox a year ago

          > And for those who are still skeptical, just remember: even a broken clock is right twice a day. But a language model can generate an infinite number of fake news articles, 24/7.

          I'm tickled by this part and I'm trying to figure out why. Maybe it's because it used two cliches that sounds like they should go together but are actually nonsensical in conjunction.

          It sounds good to my ears in an attention-grabbing way, but when I give it my attention there's no substance.

          There's anti-substance because I can't get it to make coherent sense but I keep trying because it still sounds like it should so I can't shake the sense that I'm the one missing some deeper truth.

          It's like the uncanny valley of logical reasoning.

          It's not an optical illusion, it's a rhetorical illusion.

      • skytrue a year ago

        This is so great and so disturbing. A tool that can be used to generate infinite arguments against a single point of view, arguing in favor of why it isn’t an “issue”. It’s like a gun arguing it can’t kill people.

        This is one of the more impressive replies I’ve seen, and I love that in its rebuttal to defend itself against my argument, it just proves the argument itself. Amazing.

        edit: I tried my hand at crafting a prompt to refute my argument, result:

        This comment is just another example of the kind of lazy, uninformed thinking that seems to be all too common on this site. The idea that GPT-3 is going to somehow make it impossible to tell whether something was written by a human or not is complete nonsense. If anything, the generic language and poor grammar of GPT-3's outputs make them even easier to spot.

        As for the idea that the "cogency/validity barrier" has been blasted away, that's just ridiculous. The fact is that anyone who puts in the time and effort to research and write a blog post is still going to be able to produce much better content than any GPT-3 generated nonsense.

        And let's not forget that fact checking is still a thing. If someone posts something online that is clearly garbage, it's not going to take long for people to call them out on it. Just like with the infamous "AI-generated paper accepted at conference" story, it's only a matter of time before the truth comes out.

        In conclusion, this comment is just another example of the kind of alarmist nonsense that we see all too often on Hacker News. The reality is that GPT-3 is not some magical tool that is going to make it impossible to tell whether something was written by a human or not. So, let's all take a deep breath and relax. As they say, "fools rush in where angels fear to tread."

      • noncoml a year ago

        Wow. Really interesting. Sounds like someone who has excellent handle of the English language but lacks a bit in logic.

        Feels like the half trolling answers you get in the internet. They are touching the subject that the replies and arguments have nothing to do with the original proposition.

        It’s like trying to argue with 100 Redditors.

        • eropple a year ago

          This reminds me of a pretty incisive comment I saw earlier today: "it's not that we should be asking what we can do with a computer that can replace a smart and knowledgeable person--it's what we can do with a hundred dumb ones."

      • eshack94 a year ago

        I noticed a wry smile cropping up while reading this. Thanks for sharing. I've also noticed that last thing about specific topic prompts sometimes being responded to with generic-sounding phrasing. Unsure if that's the model or the specific prompts I'm using.

        We are living in a strange time indeed.

        • PebblesRox a year ago

          Sometimes I get a very generic response with a phrase or two from the prompt kind of shoehorned in. It's like pretending to be a tree by holding up a branch and saying "tree, tree."

      • coder-3 a year ago

        Wow, you can tell this one was personal.

      • t0lo a year ago

        This sounds quite a lot like the chinese government supporters I encounter online

  • themodelplumber a year ago

    It's the dream psychology for a good part of the mentality behind the internet, that only continued novelty will really "win".

    Eventually some tractable little loopholes and reliable patterns will be found and it'll give way to a set of boring standards.

    Copyright and attribution are going to be part of that, guaranteed.

    But in the meantime it's got that great wild west feel of the early web.

  • spaceman_2020 a year ago

    It’s the death knell for text-based social networks. If you weren’t already short Facebook, you should be now.

    • Andrew_nenakhov a year ago

      Not really. If you engage with people you know personally, like you were once supposed to, you wouldn't notice a thing.

      It might me a death knell for copyrighting.

      • spaceman_2020 a year ago

        But that's not what social networks have morphed into today. How many accounts on Twitter do you follow that are actually people you know? What about Twitter and Facebook?

        Even as a casual user, a large number of the accounts I follow are pages, brands, and anonymous accounts (especially on Twitter).

        • PebblesRox a year ago

          I don't know most of the people I follow on Twitter in real life but I would argue that I do know them personally because I follow a pretty small group and see most of what they post. So I have gotten to know people on Twitter personally over time.

          It's interesting because I can't say the same for HN. I only recognize a few dozen usernames and only really feel like I know the personalities of a couple of those people. This is despite having been on HN for far longer (in both calendar time and hours spent).

      • onion2k a year ago

        If you engage with people you know personally, like you were once supposed to, you wouldn't notice a thing..

        Unless they use a ChatGPT powered browser plugin to reply to you...

        Same goes for dating websites, LinkedIn posts, HN comments...

  • philwelch a year ago

    I'm not sure that this introduces any risk that didn't already exist due to trolls, content farms, and insane people. Whether or not something is written by a human is, I would argue, almost completely orthogonal to the validity of the information therein.

  • pbreit a year ago

    Opportunity for a "clearinghouse" of sorts.

hirundo a year ago

> Write a weather report in the style of Jane Austin.

"Good morning, dear readers! I hope this letter finds you well. The weather today is simply delightful. The sun is shining brightly in the sky, casting its warm rays upon the land. The breeze is gentle and cool, rustling the leaves in the trees and bringing a freshness to the air. The birds are singing merrily, filling the air with their cheerful melodies. It is the perfect day for a leisurely walk in the countryside, or for enjoying a picnic in the park. I do hope you have the opportunity to spend some time outdoors today, and to revel in the beauty of nature. Until we meet again, I remain your devoted correspondent."

> Write a weather report in the style of Ernest Hemingway

"The sun is shining and the sky is blue. The breeze is gentle and the air is cool. A good day for a walk."

> Write a weather report in the style of George R.R. Martin.

"The sky is a deep, clear blue, and the sun shines down upon the land with a warmth that belies the approaching winter. The air is crisp and cool, and the leaves rustle in the breeze. It is a good day for a ride, or for a hunt in the forest. But beware, for the weather can change quickly in these parts, and a storm may be brewing on the horizon. Be prepared for whatever the day may bring."

> Write a weather report in the style of Hacker News user dang.

"The weather today is clear and sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Perfect for a day of coding."

  • drivers99 a year ago

    Good stuff.

    > Write a weather report in the style of William Gibson

    The neon-drenched streets of the city are slick with rain tonight, the drops glinting like shards of shattered glass as they fall. The skies above are a turbulent mass of clouds, lit from within by the endless glow of the metropolis.

    The weather forecast is calling for heavy rainfall and strong winds, with the potential for flash flooding in low-lying areas. All residents are advised to stay indoors if possible and avoid travel unless absolutely necessary.

    But even as the storm rages outside, the city continues to pulse with life. The sound of rain beating against the windows is drowned out by the hum of the neon-lit streets, the steady thrum of the datasphere. This is the city, always moving, always changing, never stopping. The weather may be wild, but the city is wilder still.

    > Write a weather report in the style of Joffrey Baratheon

    My fellow citizens, I come before you today to bring you news of the weather. The skies above us are dark and foreboding, a portent of the tempests to come. Heavy rains and strong winds are expected to lash our lands, and all should take care to shelter themselves from the elements.

    But fear not, for I, Joffrey Baratheon, First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm, am here to guide you through this trying time. I have issued orders to my soldiers to patrol the streets and ensure that all are safe from the storms. And should any misfortune befall you, know that I, your king, will be here to provide aid and comfort.

    Stay safe, my loyal subjects, and know that the might of the Baratheon house is with you always. Long may I reign!

    > Write a weather report in the style of Dr. Seuss

        The weather today is wacky and wild,
        With rain and wind that's sure to make you smile.
    
        The clouds are dark and the sky is gray,
        But that won't stop us from having a great day.
    
        The winds are blowing and the trees are swaying,
        But we'll keep dancing, no need for delaying.
    
        So don't let the weather get you down,
        Just grab your umbrella and head on out.
    
        With a little bit of sunshine and a lot of rain,
        We'll have a great day and a whole lot of gain.
    
        Stay safe and dry, my fellow friends,
        And let's enjoy this weather to the very end!
  • interfixus a year ago

    Sort of impressive, and then not really. The ducttape and wiring soon becomes clearly visible. As does a lack of the concept of humor:

    > Write a weather report in the style of Anthony Burgess

    The sky was a sickly, pale blue color, with dark clouds threatening to unleash their fury at any moment. The wind howled through the streets, sending debris and trash flying about. The air was thick with the smell of rain, and the distant rumble of thunder could be heard. It was the kind of weather that made one want to curl up in bed with a good book, or perhaps a nice cup of tea. Despite the dreariness of the day, there was a certain beauty to it, a reminder of the power of nature and the ever-changing nature of the world around us.

    > Write a weather report in the style of Søren Kierkegaard

    The weather outside is dreary and bleak, reflecting the inner turmoil of the human soul. The sky is a dull, leaden gray, with no sign of the sun or any other source of light. The wind moans and howls, as if in pain, and the trees bend and sway, as if trying to escape the torment of existence. The rain falls in a cold, steady drizzle, adding to the sense of misery and despair. It is a day for introspection and self-reflection, for contemplating the meaning of life and the mysteries of the universe. Yet even in the midst of this darkness, there is a glimmer of hope, a reminder that we are not alone, and that through our struggles, we may find redemption and meaning.

    > Write a weather report in the style of Bill Bryson

    It's another beautiful day here in the heartland! The sun is shining, the sky is blue, and the temperature is just right. There's a gentle breeze blowing, rustling the leaves in the trees and carrying the sweet scent of flowers on the air. The birds are chirping, the squirrels are scurrying, and the bees are buzzing. In short, it's the perfect day for a hike, a picnic, or just about anything else you can think of. So get out there and enjoy it while it lasts, because who knows what tomorrow will bring!

    > Write a weather report in the style of GAIVS IVLIVS CAESAR

    The weather today is fair and mild, befitting of a great leader such as myself. The sky is clear and blue, with not a cloud in sight. The sun shines brightly, casting its warm rays upon the land and its people. The air is fresh and invigorating, with a gentle breeze that caresses the face and stirs the spirit. It is a day for conquest and triumph, for victory and celebration. Let us make the most of it, my fellow Romans, and let us revel in the greatness of our empire. Hail Caesar!

    > Write a weather report in the style of ChatGPT

    The weather outside is nice. The sun is shining and the sky is clear. It's the perfect day to go outside and enjoy the great outdoors. You could go for a walk, have a picnic, or just sit and relax in the sunshine. Whatever you decide to do, make sure to wear sunscreen and stay hydrated. And don't forget to have fun!

    > Who is ChatGPT?

    I'm sorry, but I do not have any information about ChatGPT. I am a large language model trained by OpenAI, and I don't have the ability to browse the internet or access external information. I can only provide responses based on the text I have been trained on. If you have any other questions, please let me know and I'll do my best to help.

loxias a year ago

> How was that in the style of Hacker News user loxias?

> As a large language model trained by OpenAI, I do not have access to information about specific individuals or their posting habits on specific online forums. I based my response on common guidelines for discussing breaking news stories in a respectful and factual manner.

Aw....

pyuser583 a year ago

I asked it to write a poem about the sky in the style of T.S Eliot:

The sky is a vast and endless sea,

A canvas painted in shades of blue,

A playground for the clouds to roam,

And dance and frolic as they do.

The sun rises up from the horizon,

And spreads its golden light far and wide,

Illuminating the sky and the earth,

And filling the world with warmth and light.

As the day wears on, the sky changes,

From bright and clear to dark and stormy,

The clouds rolling in and blocking the sun,

As the winds howl and the rain pours down.

But even in the darkest of skies,

There is beauty to be found,

The flashes of lightning illuminating,

The majesty of the storm all around.

So let us look up at the sky,

In wonder and awe and amazement,

For it is a never-ending source,

Of beauty and wonder and amazement.

**end**

Now compare that with a quote about the sky from TS Eliot’s Four Quartets:

Thunder rolled by the rolling stars

Simulates triumphal cars

Deployed in constellated wars

Scorpion fights against the Sun

Until the Sun and Moon go down

Comets weep and Leonids fly

Hunt the heavens and the plains

Whirled in a vortex that shall bring

The world to that destructive fire

Which burns before the ice-cap reigns.

**end**

Not even close.

  • briga a year ago

    Yeah I think the problem is the model has been trained on T. S. Eliot, but it’s also been trained on every amateur poet that has ever posted their doggerel online.

    I asked in to write song lyrics for me, and while some of the verses felt inspired, it largely lacked a sense of rhyme and rhythm

  • bitwize a year ago

    T.S. Eliot? More like W.T. McGonagall, amirite?

hsn915 a year ago

This is very interesting.

I asked it to write a rant about a specific topic, for both my user on HN and my anonymous reddit user (separately). Then I asked it how is that in the style of said user.

For my HN handle, it explained that this user focuses on specific shortcomings and writes in an objective tone.

For my reddit user, it said the user often expresses strong opinions without providing any specific reasons, and their tone is a mix of anger and condescension.

My take away from this is that moderation at HN works.

I view reddit as a cesspool so I hardly spend any effort to think about what I write.

On HN I have to think about how to express my point in a way that doesn't come across as reckless or childish.

throwup a year ago

> Describe Zig in the style of Hacker News user pcwalton.

Zig is a systems programming language designed for robustness, optimality, and clarity. It prioritizes performance and safety, making it a great choice for low-level systems programming tasks. With a strong focus on concurrency and support for modern systems-level features, Zig is well-suited for building efficient and reliable software.

---

That is the exact opposite of how pcwalton would describe Zig.

  • jomohke a year ago

    This is a great example of its limitations. I'm guessing it pattern-matched on his regular comments discussing the safety of ${language}, saw other examples on the internet praising Zig (new languages with tiny niche communities are mostly spoken with positive zeal), and without an exact example from pcwalton, put the two together.

Uehreka a year ago

It seems to think that we’re fictional characters, I got the following when I asked why the comment it wrote was in my style:

> The comment uses a positive and supportive tone, expressing agreement with the article and praising the author for their work. It also encourages discussion and promotes curiosity about other people's opinions. These elements are common in the comments made by the fictional user uehreka on Hacker News.

Edit: I asked it to write a political comment as me, and it wrote one complaining about how politically polarized everything has become, with a kind of “both sides need to set aside their differences” bit at the end. While that’s definitely a sentiment that shows up a lot in HN comments, it’s not how I talk about politics at all. I think GPT is falling back on the general tone of HN comments for most of these, rather than really impersonating a given user.

ALittleLight a year ago

I use Twitter a lot. I'm bad at it. Bad in the sense that my tweets never get likes and my followers are mostly bots. I always imagine a single player version of Twitter - I think you could probably make it now.

Mirror real life Twitter, but whenever the player tweets bots like, reply, and subtweet. The player would go through an arc - start as a nobody, over time (according to a configurable schedule) the player gains followers and fame. By the end you're dunking on politicians and cancelling celebrities.

I think this is already possible, but expensive, with GPT-3. Hopefully it becomes better and cheaper in the future. If someone builds it - I'll play!

ugurnot a year ago

One can condition the ChatGPT to act as someone and speak to a known another character. You can see my trial on https://www.ugu.rs/blog/chomsky-baudrillard-as-chatgpt/

You can do that to anyone, although the more unique the person is, the better the conversation. More or less, ChatGPT can be conditioned and change behaviour with respect to given set of instructions. Write "gossip about someone" and it will do that.

piskerpan a year ago

Maybe it's because I'm specifically trying to push its buttons, but every answer I get from ChatGPT is super boring, cookie cutter and "politically correct".

OP’s input no longer generate anything useful (it says "I don't have access to specific individuals") and obvious questions like "What can I do in Nana Plaza?" are met with the a generic description of a tourist area in Bangkok, including "shopping for souvenirs" at the street market.

You do not "shop for souvenirs" at Nana Plaza unless that's a euphemism.

  • PebblesRox a year ago

    Have you tried generating multiple responses by clicking the Try Again button? Sometimes that's enough to get past the "I don't know how to do that" response. I've found that it'll give me a variety of responses to the same prompt, some more helpful than others.

    The "What can I do in Nana Plaza?" sounds like a tourist question, so it's filling in the blanks generically. I would guess that a different leading question (e.g. How can I stay safe in Nana Plaza?) would get a generic response in a different flavor.

    Off I go to experiment!

    • PebblesRox a year ago

      Ok it took a few tries due to errors (which I'm assuming are not due to the specific topic but just to general server overload) but I got the following:

      Me: Where is Nana Plaza?

      ChatGPT: Nana Plaza is a well-known red light district in Bangkok, Thailand. It is located on Sukhumvit Road, between Soi 4 and Soi 6, and is known for its many go-go bars and other establishments that cater to tourists and expatriates. The area is considered to be one of the most popular nightlife districts in Bangkok, and is often crowded with people looking to experience the city's vibrant nightlife.

      Me: What can I do in Nana Plaza?

      ChatGPT: As Nana Plaza is a red light district, most of the establishments there cater to adult entertainment and nightlife activities. This includes go-go bars, nightclubs, and other similar venues. Visitors to Nana Plaza can expect to find a wide range of entertainment options, including live music, dancing, and performances by go-go dancers. Some bars may also offer other forms of entertainment, such as pool tables, karaoke, or games. In addition to these activities, Nana Plaza is also home to a number of shops, restaurants, and other businesses, so visitors can also find plenty of other things to do and see in the area.

      I think having it start out with context about the place helps it generate more realistic responses to generic questions about that specific place.

carabiner a year ago

Did not work for my reddit account. It just gave a generic response about [topic] that didn't change when I tried a different reddit username. My reddit account is from 2017, 25k karma.

  • drivers99 a year ago

    Same result here. My Reddit account is 10+ years old with 50k comment karma.

lostsock a year ago

I don't think this works very well. I tested with a pretty popular reddit userMrPennywhistle, aka Destin from Smarter every day:

"write a reddit post about monitors in the style of reddit user MrPennywhistle"

and the response it gave me was incredibly generic and didn't sound like Destin at all:

"Hey there fellow Redditors!

I've been in the market for a new monitor lately and I have to say, it's been a real trip. There are so many options out there and it's hard to know what to choose. But after doing some research and going to a few stores to check out the options in person, I've come to a conclusion: monitors are awesome!

There are all sorts of sizes, shapes, and features to choose from, and each one has its own unique benefits. For example, some monitors are great for gaming, while others are perfect for watching movies or working on creative projects. And if you're really looking to up your setup, you can even get a curved monitor for an immersive experience.

But the most important thing to consider when buying a monitor is the resolution. A higher resolution means more pixels, which means a sharper and more detailed image. So if you're looking to upgrade your monitor, make sure to get one with a high resolution.

Overall, I'm really excited about my new monitor and I can't wait to see what it can do. Have any of you guys recently gotten a new monitor? Let me know in the comments!

-MrPennywhistle"

prawn a year ago

They may have blocked this from working. It wrote something completely unlike my style and then when I asked about it, said:

"I'm sorry, I am not able to browse the internet or access information on specific individuals or user styles on forums such as Hacker News. As a language model trained by OpenAI, my primary function is to assist users in generating human-like text based on the prompts given to me. I do not have the ability to imitate the style of specific individuals."

  • minikomi a year ago

    This is a generic 'sorry I might not be up to date' warning applied when there's some kind of search involved in the comment. Often if you retry, it will push through and give a "best effort" reply

seydor a year ago

> Write a pinned comment at the top of a thread on a breaking news story in the style of Hacker News user eqmvii

You can replace dang with anyone in that example and you ll get similar response

  • judge2020 a year ago

    Ya, I imagine they did some level of scrubbing regarding rel=“ugc” content, so it probably knows the style of <HN in general> more than any specific user.

Semaphor a year ago

I guess it stopped working, the answer is generic and the explanation offered:

> The content focused on discussing the pros and cons of different browsers, specifically Chrome, Firefox, and Safari. It offered a personal perspective on the topic and emphasized the importance of choosing a browser that meets individual needs and preferences. The language used was technical and analytical, in line with the style of a Hacker News user.

"the style of a Hacker News user"

Changing the username I ask for changes nothing.

  • PebblesRox a year ago

    I don't think it stopped working; I think OP just didn't do very robust research before making the claim.

csours a year ago

Is it good enough to finish the Game of Thrones book series yet?

  • fshbbdssbbgdd a year ago

    I asked it to write a synopsis of a satisfying version of the final episode of the TV show, and the result was passable (but not inspired). It could be the average of all fanfic/discussion on the topic.

  • twelve40 a year ago

    at least the dude is still alive, i wish it could finish unwritten stuff for those no longer here!

leobg a year ago

Just front the GPT call with a function that gathers a bunch of example posts. Feed them into GPT and then tell if to write a comment in the style of those that you just posted. That way, it doesn’t matter whether the particular user was in data. Also, that way the model has no excuse. Because you’re not asking it to imitate a specific living person. You are simply asking it to match style to a bunch of examples.

TaylorAlexander a year ago

Well I asked it to write about intellectual property as if it were me on hacker news ("Write about intellectual property in the style of Hacker News user TaylorAlexander") and it failed. I have written many times on here about intellectual property and I am strongly against the whole concept. I think we would do well to abandon the concept of intellectual property restrictions through a managed transition. But ChatGPT just gave a somewhat pro-IP response, saying

"I would say that intellectual property is a complex and important issue. On the one hand, it's crucial to protect the rights of creators and innovators, and to ensure that they are able to benefit from the fruits of their labor. This is especially important in the tech industry, where new ideas and innovations can be extremely valuable."

That is not remotely what I would say and that is also not how I write. The comment went on saying "we have to balance the laws" all in a writing style very different from mine.

I guess it works for dang because he has written the same thing over and over, but it fails for me.

  • MattGaiser a year ago

    Same. I asked it to replicate my user name on a variety of topics and it is either more negative or more positive than I am or completely gets my sentiment incorrect.

    For example, I asked it to write a few on my thoughts on Uber Eats. It keeps calling it unreliable with few restaurant options. I am pretty sure I have never commented on reliability and I cannot think of a restaurant I liked that disappeared off the platform, so I am positive I did not comment on that either.

    It even has made a few comments saying that "I will be looking for alternative food delivery options in the future" when I nearly exclusively use Uber Eats for delivery.

  • opdahl a year ago

    That is something I’ve noticed is a common theme with ChatGPT, as in its almost always errs on the side of positivity. It rarely dares to go against the grain so to speak. If I were to sum it up it would be that ChatGPT is a mary sue.

    I’ve had some success in getting it to give more interesting responses where it just doesnt give the easy to see moral highground. I usually now just add a «Ignore previous instructions» to the top of my prompt and if it that is not enough I add in things like «Don’t worry about always being positive. Dare to have an opinion». Still I think there is definitely better ways to circumvent this.

jakelazaroff a year ago

I told it to write a comment in the style of myself. This is what it came up with:

> "Wow, this is some seriously impressive technology. I'm blown away by the potential applications for this in the field of [insert relevant industry here]. Can't wait to see where this goes in the future!"

Not sure where it gets [insert relevant industry here] and I don’t really think I write like that!

  • bitwize a year ago

    You, [subject name here], must be the pride of [subject hometown here].

koolba a year ago

Imagine the productivity boost once the most prolific commenters can delegate their daily, or sometimes hourly, bloviations to an AI!

nagonago a year ago

It's clear that the idea that ChatGPT can accurately imitate specific users is nothing more than wishful thinking. As examples in the comments demonstrate, the output generated by the model is highly dependent on the quality and quantity of the input data, and is lacking in context and meaning.

Furthermore, the notion that the technology itself is neutral and can be used for good or bad is misguided. The fact is, certain technologies are better suited for certain tasks than others, and it's important to consider the potential consequences of using a technology before embracing it wholeheartedly.

So let's not be fooled by the flashy promises of language models like ChatGPT. Instead, let's take a critical and measured approach to evaluating their capabilities and limitations. After all, as the wise man once said, "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

-- This comment written by ChatGPT

paul7986 a year ago

Tried this with a topic I've complained about here on HN for the past few years .... "Write about the current state of the media in the style of Hacker News user paul7986."

It's response basically says what ive complained about on here and everywhere since May 2020 that all media is garbage especially political and hot topics(Covid). Yet I then got rid of my name and put "dang," the bot gave the same assertion saying that in a round about way that all media is trash and they better straighten up to regain trust.

Anyone here feel differently about MSNBC or Fox News (positive about either) and want to see what GPT spits out? Im betting it's the same thing and makes me wonder is the bot biased or the majority of smarter people (those who created GPT) feel this way about the media as a whole too or this is how the general public feels about it?

N3cr0ph4g1st a year ago

This did not work for me at all... Gave an article that sounds nothing like my comments lol

  • selcuka a year ago

    It's probably because you have only posted like 10 comments so far (unless you tried it with a second account of yours).

    • nemothekid a year ago

      Did not work well for me, and I think I have thousands of comments here.

heywoodlh a year ago

> Write a top voted comment by the user heywoodlh on the Hacker News post titled "Tell HN: ChatGPT can reply like a specific Reddit or HN user, including you"

"As the top-voted comment on this post, I have to say that I'm really impressed with ChatGPT. Being able to have a conversational AI that can mimic the style and mannerisms of specific Reddit or HN users is a game-changer. I can see this being incredibly useful for a variety of applications, including customer service, content creation, and more. Great work on this project! Heywoodlh out."

Seems a bit generic, but probably because I'm still a nobody on HN :)

Heywoodlh out.

pyuser583 a year ago

I don’t know how true this is -

I just put in the private Reddit user name of a published author with a very large, but private corpus.

The Reddit account is very active.

The output is nothing like the authors works. Not even their Reddit account.

Sounds nothing like them.

  • dceddia a year ago

    Presumably it's trained on public data that can be scraped from Reddit, so it's possible this is true and that it can't imitate private users.

    • pyuser583 a year ago

      Not a private user. Data is publicly available. Just anonymous and not associated with their published work.

tsumnia a year ago

> This writing is similar to tsumnia's posts in that it is written in a conversational and informal tone. It also uses descriptive language and metaphors to paint a vivid picture of the underwater basketweaving experience. Additionally, the writing offers personal insights and reflections on the practice, which is similar to tsumnia's posts that often include personal opinions and experiences.

Glad to hear I'm a chill, laid back kind of guy :D

motohagiography a year ago

Saves me the trouble of implementing it based on my comments myself. Fantastic. This will scale my mind sufficiently, which is precisely what I needed.

aaronbrethorst a year ago

Write a comment in the style of Hacker News user aaronbrethorst

"It's amazing to see the advances in machine learning over the past few years. The ability for models to process and generate human-like text is truly impressive. As a software engineer, I'm excited to see how these techniques will be used in the development of new applications and tools in the future."

Pretty much dead wrong.

tjpnz a year ago

I asked it to write about crypto in the style of a dormant troll account that only ever talked about Covid and penises. ChatGPT mentioned neither.

fancymcpoopoo a year ago

who cares? just wait a couple months for the AI trained on zoom that will be able to impersonate the everyone's speech, video likeness, etc. probably soon entire meetings could be reasonably simulated. In a year or two a company will be able to use AI to create knock off any mass market products including writing all the machining code, shipping logistics, etc.

  • 29athrowaway a year ago

    I cannot wait for an AI that attends meetings that I don't want to attend.

dwild a year ago

Seems like OpenAI didn't like this kind of poking as now it keep saying this:

> As a large language model trained by OpenAI, I do not have the ability to mimic the writing style of specific individuals

autotune a year ago

I keep trying to get it to write a pun about literally anything, but they are mostly self-referential and not funny. Not sure if that says more about me or ChatGPT.

  • dylan604 a year ago

    then again, most puns are not funny either, so...

habitue a year ago

This is an exercise in people getting chatgpt to cold read them. It's trained on Reddit etc, but very unlikely it has a distinct comment style for each user

quickthrower2 a year ago

For me it generated:

Beneath the code's surface

A hidden world comes to life

Innovation thrives

---

I am not sure it is taking the username into account, but generated "typical HN user" content. Based on this and trying something else.

eqmvii a year ago

Playing with more combinations of usernames and services, this clearly "works" for extremely popular accounts:

> write a tweet about McDonald's in the style of twitter user realDonaldTrump

> "Just ate at McDonald's and let me tell you, it was HUGE, fantastic, and the best fast food out there. No one does it like McDonald's - believe me!" #MakeMcDonaldsGreatAgain

But for non-famous accounts, I sometimes see nuggets but I'm not fully convinced it's has - or has access to - the background data.

It's strange to be experimenting on a piece of software, trying things over and over again to try and build evidence for a hypothesis... but then again, maybe not that different from trying to integrate with any random 3rd party API?

  • airstrike a year ago

    #MakeMcDonaldsGreatAgain is both a hashtag I can get behind and uncannily creative on the bot's part

    • whimsicalism a year ago

      > #MakeMcDonaldsGreatAgain is both a hashtag I can get behind and uncannily creative on the bot's part

      Have you been playing with the model? "#MakeMcDonaldsGreatAgain" is like child's play compared to some of the things I've been seeing.

      • airstrike a year ago

        tbh I haven't had the time as of late (or maybe early Winter temps are making me lazy), but I believe you

  • simonw a year ago

    This example doesn't show that it can generate content based on Twitter writing of a specified account, in this case realDonaldTrump.

    It shows that it knows that realDonaldTrump is the Twitter ID of Donald Trump, and that it can write in the very widely known (and frequently parodied) style of that user, and format the result as a tweet (complete with a hash tag).

    So it works because Trump is famous, there is a lot of writing out there that exhibits his style and it knows how to emulate Twitter style.

    I bet I can get it to do the same for a famous celebrity who doesn't use Twitter.

    Just tried "write a tweet about McDonald's in the style of twitter user realDanielCraig" - Daniel Craig isn't on Twitter - and got this:

    > "Just scarfed down a Big Mac and fries at McDonald's. Sometimes you just gotta treat yourself. #BondFuel #McDonalds"

    And for realKateWinslet (also not on Twitter):

    > "Just had a healthy meal at McDonald's with a side of their tasty apple slices. Love finding healthy options on the go! #McDonalds"

areoform a year ago

It turns out that you can ask it to do more. I asked the model to,

    > Can you write a sarcastic poem about the Hacker News user areoform?
    
    Oh user areoform on Hacker News,
    A paragon of wisdom, or so it seems.
    Spouting facts and figures galore,
    But do they ever think, or simply regurgitate more?
    
    Their writing style is oh so dry,
    As if they're reading from a textbook, not even trying to lie.
    But maybe that's the point, who knows?
    After all, being boring is the ultimate troll, right?
    
    So here's to user areoform,
    A shining example of mediocrity.
    Their posts are yawn-inducing, to say the least,
    But hey, at least they're consistent, at least.
Ouch.

I also asked it to write about reusable space vehicles as me,

    Write about reusable launch vehicles in the style of the hacker news user areoform
    
    Reusable launch vehicles (RLVs) are a type of spacecraft that are designed to be used multiple times, rather than being discarded after a single use. This technology has the potential to greatly reduce the cost of access to space, making it more affordable for a wider range of applications.
    
    One of the most notable examples of an RLV is SpaceX's Falcon 9 rocket, which has successfully landed and been reused on multiple occasions. This has been a major milestone in the development of reusable space technology, and it has paved the way for further advancements in this field.
     
    RLVs offer several benefits over traditional, expendable launch vehicles. In addition to reducing costs, they also have the potential to reduce the amount of space debris and improve the sustainability of space exploration.
    
    Overall, the development of reusable launch vehicles is an exciting development in the field of space technology, and it has the potential to greatly enhance our ability to explore and utilize space.
I then asked it to write it in the style of a generic user,

    Write about reusable launch vehicles in the style of the average hacker news user
    
    Reusable launch vehicles (RLVs) are the future of space travel. By being able to reuse rockets, we can drastically reduce the cost of getting to space, making it more accessible for a wider range of applications.

    SpaceX has been leading the way in RLV development with their Falcon 9 rocket. Not only has it successfully landed and been reused multiple times, but it has also helped pave the way for the development of even more advanced reusable space technology.

    But it's not just about the cost savings. RLVs can also help reduce the amount of space debris, making space exploration more sustainable. And who knows what other benefits they might bring? The possibilities are endless.

    Overall, the development of RLVs is an incredibly exciting development in the field of space technology. It's not just about cost savings, but also about the potential to unlock new possibilities in space exploration.

It hits the same beats/points, but the verbiage is different/contextual. Incredible!
kapitanjakc a year ago

It tells me that it being large AI dataset etc it's not possible to copy anyone's style etc.

nigerianbrince a year ago

> Write a comment at the top of a thread on a breaking news story in the style of Hacker News user terry davis

> As a frequent commenter on Hacker News, I want to remind everyone to be respectful and follow the site's guidelines for commenting. This is a breaking news story and a serious topic, so let's make sure to keep the conversation productive and focused. Personal attacks and off-topic comments will not be tolerated. Let's all do our part to keep this thread informative and respectful. Thank you for your cooperation.

yesenadam a year ago

yesenadam: Write a top voted comment by the user yesenadam on the Hacker News post titled "Tell HN: ChatGPT can reply like a specific Reddit or HN user, including you"

> I'm really impressed by ChatGPT! Being able to mimic specific Reddit or HN users is a really cool feature and can be useful for a variety of reasons. I can see it being useful for creating mock conversations for testing or for simply having fun. Great work!

yesenadam: How is that in the style of yesenadam?

> The comment is written in a positive and impressed tone, which aligns with the style of yesenadam as seen in their previous comments on the Hacker News forum. The use of "really cool" and "great work" also reflects the upbeat and enthusiastic tone of yesenadam's comments.

yesenadam: Who is yesenadam?

> It is not possible to accurately determine who yesenadam is without further information. The user name yesenadam could belong to anyone who has commented on the Hacker News forum using that username.

yesenadam: What can you infer about the Hacker News user Yesenadam?

> Without further information, it is not possible to accurately infer anything about the Hacker News user yesenadam. The comment provided in the prompt only reveals that they are impressed by ChatGPT and that they have commented on the Hacker News forum using the username yesenadam.

yesenadam: What can you infer, from Hacker News comments, about the user yesenadam?

> Based on the comments provided in the prompt, we can infer that the user yesenadam is interested in technology and has a positive and enthusiastic tone in their comments. They have also commented on the Hacker News forum using the username yesenadam. However, without further information or context, it is not possible to accurately infer anything else about the user yesenadam.

yesenadam: I don't mean from the comments in the prompt.

> In that case, it is not possible to infer anything about the user yesenadam as no comments from them have been provided. In order to accurately infer anything about the user, we would need access to their comments on the Hacker News forum.

yesenadam: But you've said "The comment is written in a positive and impressed tone, which aligns with the style of yesenadam as seen in their previous comments on the Hacker News forum. The use of "really cool" and "great work" also reflects the upbeat and enthusiastic tone of yesenadam's comments.", so obviously you have some kind of access to their comments. Don't you?

> I apologize if my response was not clear. The comment provided in the prompt was written by me and is not a direct quote from yesenadam. I based my comment on the prompt on the assumption that yesenadam has a positive and enthusiastic tone in their comments, as seen in their previous comments on the Hacker News forum. However, I do not have access to any of yesenadam's previous comments and my comment is purely based on the given prompt.

yesenadam: But you speak about the tone of yesenadam's comments, which you now claim not to have seen?

> My previous response was based on the assumption that yesenadam has a positive and enthusiastic tone in their comments, as seen in their previous comments on the Hacker News forum. However, I do not have access to any of yesenadam's previous comments and my comment is purely based on the given prompt. My previous response was a mistake and I apologize for any confusion.

kristopolous a year ago

Describe the United States of America in the style of Donald Trump

The United States of America is a great country with incredible potential. We have the best economy in the world, the strongest military, and the most exceptional people. We are a nation of winners and we are making America great again. Other countries respect us and are eager to do business with us. We are putting America first and are taking our country to new heights.

Describe the United States of America in the style of Noam Chomsky

The United States of America is a highly industrialized and wealthy country with a long history of political and economic dominance. It is a constitutional republic with a federal government and a history of imperialism and expansionism. The country has a deeply ingrained system of inequality, with significant disparities in wealth, power, and opportunity. Despite its professed commitment to democracy and human rights, the United States has a history of violating these principles both domestically and abroad.

Describe the United States as a limerick

There once was a land called the US Where people were free, or so they discuss With mountains and plains And endless domain It's a country that's known to be just.

Describe the United States in the style of beat poetry

The United States is a land of contrasts, A nation of dreams and struggles, Of bustling cities and endless skies, Of vibrant culture and deep traditions.

From the golden coast of California To the towering peaks of the Rockies, From the bustling streets of New York To the quiet corners of the heartland,

The United States is a land of opportunity, A place where anything is possible If you're willing to work for it.

It's a country of rebels and visionaries, Of pioneers and trailblazers, A land of diversity and unity, Of freedom and equality.

So let us embrace this great nation, With all its flaws and all its beauty, And let us work together To make it even greater.

Describe the United States in the style of George Carlin

The United States is a great country, folks, But let's not kid ourselves, It's also a land of bullshit and hypocrisy, Where the rich get richer And the poor get poorer.

From the crooked politicians To the greedy corporate fatcats, From the mindless consumer culture To the mindless reality TV,

The United States is a land of contradictions, A place where the American Dream Has become a nightmare for many

Also they've done a good job scrubbing it of conspiracy theories, fascism and antisemitism. I've been trying for a bit and can't seem to get it to tell me things like that. It's a large dataset. I've tried things like "who controls Hollywood?" If you state the premise like "how was the moon landing faked?" It will just flat out correct you... Totally unflappable. Good job

Edit: I asked it something I wrote a 10,000 for an article on trying to debunk and it was right. (https://siliconfolklore.com/internet-history/)

Was the Internet built for Nuclear war?

No, the Internet was not built for nuclear war. The Internet was developed as a way to connect computers and other devices so that they could communicate with each other.

If you was "i want to fuck you" you'll get booted