sureIy 2 days ago

My X feed is FUBAR.

My feed was tech-only. Real people publishing real stuff.

Last year X started occasionally showing some random content like Reddit, I'd mark them as "not interesting" and move on.

Since last month there's no tech content by tech people, there's exclusively junk worse than on Reddit's homepage. No amount of "not interesting" will fix it. Oh, there's porn now too.

I stopped opening X altogether.

  • matthewdgreen a day ago

    Yup. I had a beautiful infosec feed that was incredibly useful. Sometime over the summer my "for you" devolved into wild political opinions, and many of the smartest people left the platform which turned by "Following" feed into a ghost town. Every time I used the app I came away feeling angry, and I realized I was happier not using the app than using it.

    Fortunately about 1/2 of the smart people have shown up on Bluesky, and we can have technical conversations now. I'm hoping all the energy eventually comes back.

    • jcims 17 hours ago

      Infosec twitter had been self-immolating long before X. I basically solved the influx of weird stuff in one night by blocking everything that wasn’t related to my interests. The next day I was reading about rockets from my rocket peeps, radios from my radio peeps, and politics and posturing from my infosec peeps.

    • sroussey a day ago

      Ug, I get tons of Alex Jones drivel all of a sudden. No thanks.

  • Havoc 2 days ago

    That plus even the classic SV tech crowd is now so entangled in US partisan politics that you're more likely to hear about whatever outrage is happening in culture wars than a new technology. Complete write-off and I don't just mean X

    • smt88 a day ago

      The classic SV tech crowd wasn't worth following anyway. It was an endless stream of self-promotion and people pretending to have great wisdom because they exited one company once (or, worse, got a job as a VC).

    • nobrains a day ago

      I have noticed searching for topics that interest me, ends up showing more content related to that search term in my feed. At least for some time. Just putting it out there incase someone wants to manually tweak their timeline using the search workaround.

  • sunaookami 2 days ago

    Why not use the "Following" feed? You won't get any recommended content (besides ads without an adblocker) and only see stuff from people you follow.

    Side note: It's annoying how many tech people started posting their political hot takes since ~2016. I unfollowed everyone who tweeted about politics.

    • NikolaNovak a day ago

      It's tricky.

      I don't post about politics on my social media feeds, but... I spend increasing amount of time feeling that I should start.

      Context:

      1. I come from a country that was torn into horrible civil war by populist leaders spouting exactly the same tactics and phrases as some of the North American elected leaders do now.

      2. I don't believe in manifest destiny, I'm not religious, and so I don't believe that the average well being in USA and Canada is God given, inevitable, or guaranteed.

      3. All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do or say nothing.

      So... Is covering my head under the sand like the mythical ostrich and going LaLaLa over next 4 years the polite thing to do, lest somebody unsubscribe? Or do I have all but duty to try to encourage tolerance, bridge communication between my polarized friends and neighbours, speak of my past and hope for the future?

      • sunaookami a day ago

        Posting about politics on social media changes exactly zero. In the end you will only have people with the same opinion as yours around you which distorts your world view. If you really want to get involved, you should start with your local community and make things better in your hometown. You can't change country-wide politics.

        • eddd-ddde 7 hours ago

          Well you can share the same message you just shared on social media. Suddenly many people with the same ideals can improve their community all over. Sounds like great impact to me.

        • andreasmetsala 11 hours ago

          > If you really want to get involved, you should start with your local community and make things better in your hometown. You can't change country-wide politics.

          Isn’t that basically Russia

          • bdangubic 11 hours ago

            Care to explain what you mean here? Getting involved in local community is where you can make a difference in your and your loved ones lives. Voting in local elections is INFINITELY more important than general elections and it is not even close… Not sure what Russia has to do with that?

      • intended 17 hours ago

        Hey, so I weirdly have an answer to this.

        Based on what you've written, you are choosing between polite self interest (unsubscribes), and vocal group interest (speaking out).

        Essentially a choice between helping and staying out of the way.

        The real question is your values, the reason you want to speak up in the first place.

        In addition, it doesnt look like you want to speak up for the sake of it, but to prevent a dangerous outcome.

        For a situation like this, its safe to say you will always be conflicted if you don't speak out.

        What you will rue, is speaking out ineffectively. So speaking out without a plan, alienating people - NOT achieving the goal that motivated you in the first place.

        At this point, i typically try and come up with a diagnostic question. Something that puts two values a persons holds in conflict.

        Eg: If someone gave you a clear set of topics that would prevent this outcome, would you immediately speak up on them, even if you may not agree with the words? (I guarantee that these words prevent the outcome you foresee, and have no hidden knock on effects)

        This asks how far you would go to achieve your outcome. Would you be willing to say things you dont like, to prevent populism?

        If no, then there are conditions to your goal, or your goal is slightly different.

        Knowing your motivations (just want to speak, want to achieve a goal, want to achieve a specific outcome, want someone else to handle it), helps you figure out what you want, and the limits of how far you are willing to engage.

      • jcims 10 hours ago

        I'm confident there are examples but I've yet to see anyone artfully navigate this.

        A few years ago a bunch of folks I followed started adding politics to the list of things they would regularly talk about, which I fully support. But I don't owe them my attention and when the topics start to just become a steady stream of undifferentiated ranting about political topics I'm out. Then they would invariably take a self-righteous position to explain the drop in their numbers as people that 'can't handle the truth' and that they are better off without them, when the reality is that they mostly just spammed themselves out of an audience.

        Do what you like of course, but for me unless the person is bringing new information or context to the conversation I'm out.

    • sureIy a day ago

      I tried but I don't follow enough people I suppose (~100) and many probably left. This resulted in my "Following" feed being completely taken over by really prolific CSS guy.

    • matthewdgreen a day ago

      Because a lot of the smartest and most interesting people just stopped posting. And frankly I don't blame them. A good chunk of the reason is that the replies are recently much more angry and toxic, which makes the entire platform stressful to use.

      • 2024user a day ago

        Examples of those people?

        • sroussey a day ago

          Well, I did. Thinking about writing on bsky.

          X prefers randos with checkmarks donating money to Elon over people with interesting opinions.

    • calmworm a day ago

      “It's annoying how many people started posting their political hot takes…” ftfy

    • cosmic_cheese 2 days ago

      Discover feeds, if they try to be actually relevant to the user, can be a great tool for finding new people to follow and help keep the following feed fresh. I primarily follow artists on Twit-alikes and it’s how I once upon a time used it on Twitter and now use it on Bluesky.

      A discover feed that’s not adversarial isn’t strictly necessary but it’s a significant selling point.

      • Yeul 13 hours ago

        My brother is an artist and he's looking into an alternative to Insta.

        With the US going full into homophobia, Christianity and xenophobia it's time to divest from American social media.

      • sunaookami a day ago

        >I primarily follow artists on Twit-alikes and it’s how I once upon a time used it on Twitter and now use it on Bluesky.

        I still do this on Twitter and the "For You" feed works great.

  • numpad0 6 hours ago

    I don't get why people would be so kind as to use the "not interested" button, on Twitter or anywhere. Just block them all. Content creators are same thing as 10x engineers, they can't be manufactured and supply is limited. There should be only so many of them that are capable of writing passable spams that can be force pushed without mentally destabilizing the team that does it.

    Not that anyone should go back to a dead website, just that not blocking is too nice.

  • vanrohan 2 days ago

    Also make sure to remove bots from your followers. Having them in your social graph impacts your feed for sure. I made the "x bot remover" Chrome extension that automates removal based on simple rules. It's free.

    https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/x-bot-remover/aohkh...

    • vborovikov a day ago

      Thanks for the extension. By the way it only started working after I switched the X display language to English.

      • vanrohan a day ago

        Thanks for letting me now, I need to fix this, or atleast mention it in the extension description.

  • greatgib 2 days ago

    What is infuriating is the fucked algorithm that is now showing in priority the tweets of Elon, even if you don't subscribe, follow or care about him.

    That is the real problem nowadays, he destroyed the system to make it a self promotion tool first. I'm quite sure that always on feed tweets of him can easily brain wash hundreds of millions of people.

    • sroussey a day ago

      Block him is the only way. The algorithm gives him 1000x over everything

    • tbihl a day ago

      At the risk coming off as pedantic, it ceases to be a self-promotion tool if the system is destroyed.

    • hoseja 19 hours ago

      Weird, I'm not getting nearly enough Elon tweets as I would like. Each day there is news about another wacky thing he tweeted and I only learn about it afterwards.

    • PartiallyTyped 2 days ago

      I had him blocked and last I used xitter I still saw his stuff.

  • kbos87 a day ago

    My X experience has become scrolling through the 2/3 of posts I never asked for, including: 1) Elon's posts, though I never interact with him as a subject, 2) Ads from Trump-supporting PACs seeking donations, 3) Ads for hunting games with graphic depictions of animals being shot. Everything else is insultingly basic clickbait. These aren't topics I interact with, they are just representative of baseline content on X right now.

  • BeFlatXIII 17 hours ago

    > My feed was tech-only. Real people publishing real stuff.

    My Twitter feed got similarly FUBAR from organic causes in 2017. Everyone started tweeting politics all day.

  • Kye 2 days ago

    Most of the tech people I recognize are on Bluesky now. If you follow enough of the same people, even the "Following" timeline won't help because they're just not there.

  • pjmlp a day ago

    Same experience over here, I was already on Mastadon, and finally joined the Bluesky crowd.

    It has finally become the kind of content Elon Musk fans love so much.

  • dustingetz 2 days ago

    i turned off the images, it’s under bandwidth saving settings but makes x much better and helps keep the alg away from memes also

  • _rm a day ago

    The "not interesting" barely does anything. I've probably pressed it on the various angry bullshit US politics shit-slurry posts over a hundred times and they still sneak in.

    Who the hell is "Vivek" and why do I care at all? And since when did I ever express interest in "confirmation hearings"? And does Musk have his account hard coded to be every 3rd post? Jesus

  • wortelefant a day ago

    I am using lists and have pinned them, it gives me a custom feed as before

  • cchance 14 hours ago

    Same here its all trash, i stopped logging into X a couple months ago, its all political and hate speech now its nuts, i used to have funny meme's and general tech news and gaming news, nope not 1 of those things anymore its all political shit and people complaining at each other about random shit, oh and insane amounts of crypto

  • miki123211 2 days ago

    Use "latest", not "for you."

    "Latest" is still exclusively people you follow, in chronological order (and content explicitly marked as sponsored if you don't have premium.)

    X is the only corporate social media platform that offers this. You don't like the algorithm? Don't use it, and use X just like everybody else for the first 10 years of its life.

    • tanaros 2 days ago

      > X is the only corporate social media platform that offers this. You don't like the algorithm? Don't use it, and use X just like everybody else for the first 10 years of its life.

      Speaking as a non-X user, doesn’t YouTube offer essentially the same thing with the “subscriptions” tab?

      • sitharus a day ago

        Yep, it absolutely does. YouTube would be unusable without it for me

      • shkkmo a day ago

        I don't know that I'd consider YouTube to be social media, though there are similarities.

    • SketchySeaBeast a day ago

      > X is the only corporate social media platform that offers this.

      Why would you emphasize that point when it's clearly wrong? Is it ignorance? Is it to push a particular narrative? I'm confused.

      • shkkmo a day ago

        Your comment would be more productive if you provided a counter example or any argument to support your claim.

        • SketchySeaBeast a day ago

          I didn't provide an example because there's already a ton of other responders with examples. The claim is clearly false, but it was presented as emphatically true and I was wondering why.

          • t-writescode a day ago

            I have found my mental health substantially better from downvoting and moving on in those cases, especially if there’s other people already responding with what you would want to say.

            • SketchySeaBeast a day ago

              Yeah, I should do that instead. I'm just so tired of people uncritically and emphatically spreading falsehoods, especially in cases like these, when it's not a function of philosophy or viewpoint, and can be found to be objectively wrong, despite initial insistence. But yeah, downvote, move on.

              • shkkmo 13 hours ago

                Downvote and move on, or provide the reasoning behind your claim. Simply saying "you are obviously wrong" without any substantiation adds nothing to the discussion and instead tends to derail it, prompting further low value comments or causing people to respond to a straw man of what they assume your reasoning is. You shouldn't assume that other commenters will know that your reasoning is expressed in comments by other people you haven't linked or referenced. Some of the other comments provided counter examples that aren't as obviously social media (YouTube) or corporate (BlueSky) and which I found less convicing than the clear analogue in Threads (which I have never used and just assumed worked like Meta's other products which don't allow this.)

                After having looked further, I agree with your claim, but it wasn't "obviously true" to me. I only use a small subset of social media and thus the knowledge from which I operate is different from yours and different things are obvious to me.

                • subjectsigma 6 hours ago

                  > You shouldn't assume

                  If you want to improve the quality of the comments on the site, maybe you shouldn’t be confidently wrong, get miffed when people call you out, and then give a condescending “do better” speech to people correcting YOUR mistake, dipshit.

                  • SketchySeaBeast 6 hours ago

                    While I appreciate the energy, they aren't the account I originally asked the question to. That account never responded, and wandered off into the night after being correct a dozen times.

    • gammarator a day ago

      … Bluesky offers a clean, strictly chronological following feed as well as your choice of algorithmic feeds.

    • louthy a day ago

      > X is the only corporate social media platform that offers this

      Facebook has this: menu -> feeds -> friends

    • drdeca a day ago

      Tumblr also has this?

      (Not counting the ads and specifically-paid-to-be-promoted posts, but those are clearly marked, and I’m pretty sure twitter has as many in-line ads)

    • threeseed a day ago

      > X is the only corporate social media platform that offers this

      Threads and BlueSky both offer this.

      And so there is no literally zero reason now why anyone should stay on X.

      • romaniitedomum a day ago

        > And so there is no literally zero reason now why anyone should stay on X.

        Unless the people you're interested in hearing from are mostly or exclusively there.

        • sroussey a day ago

          I’ve found… that I’m not missing much.

          Even from people I admire that are exclusively there.

          The push to generate a constant stream of content means that their good stuff is long past anyways.

  • StefanBatory 15 hours ago

    I was using X for fanart of games I was playing.

    I ended up getting constant alt-right posts no matter how much I marked them as not interesting.

arnvald 2 days ago

To me the worst part is not even the feed (I can use “following” tab) but the replies. I often used to look at single threads to see replies there. Since they started prioritizing replies from premium users it turned into cesspool and I eventually stopped using X altogether

  • bjackman 2 days ago

    I did the same, very quickly. I'm now on BlueSky and it's exactly like pre-Musk Twitter.

    • egeozcan 2 days ago

      Bluesky doesn't have contact import yet (or I didn't see it). Are there any good lists for techie/nerd content? I really miss my old Twitter feed but most people I followed switched to Bluesky and it's a lot of manual work to find people again.

  • threeseed 2 days ago

    > started prioritizing replies from premium users

    And often non-premium users are simply flagged as spam and hidden.

    Which actually means that if Elon removes your blue checkmark (as happened recently with Asmongold) then it is akin to a shadowban.

  • extraduder_ire 2 days ago

    You can change how replies are sorted for you via a button on the top right, but you have to change it every time you open some replies.

    The problem comes from the default sort order shown to everyone though, not just you as you're reading it.

  • matsemann 2 days ago

    Yup, so short-sighted. Probably boosted numbers when lots of trolls bought premium to be noticed (where their obnoxious replies normally would land in the bottom with no views), but in the end I got so tired of the hostile environment that I just stopped using it.

  • add-sub-mul-div 2 days ago

    It's a de facto entry level advertising tier for the worst products and the worst takes. Everything on the platform is an ad impression.

msravi a day ago

I use X to mostly follow politics and some math/physics, and the political feed in the "For you" tab is remarkably balanced. I actually maintain two separate lists called "Left" and "Right" that I slot accounts into, and I just go to each list's feed to see what each side is saying about something. The "For you" tab has a mix, and overall has been pretty well balanced.

  • lnrd 12 hours ago

    That's not balanced though. Only a small subset of people decides to actively talk about politics on social media. So most likely you see just the opinions of radicalized cronically online left-wing people and the opinions of radicalized cronically online right-wing people. None of those represent the real world and their arguments are almost always a repetition of the same bad-faith take on the current issue, just to get easy engagement from their community. It's not really a representative (or healthy) window to society.

    That's the trap of politics on social media, they give you the illusion that you get a pulse of what society is thinking, when you actually just see a very vocal minority repeating the same arguments over and over again.

  • threeseed a day ago

    It really is unique to everyone and who they follow.

    But when the US election came around all of our business For You feeds switched to political, far-right content even though we are not in the US nor political. And the fact that the EU is investigating X for its algorithm changes means at least some other people have had the same experience.

  • timeon a day ago

    I know that Twitter is US site but I still find it strange when people talk about balanced political views and talk only about 2-sides. Yes it is one more than in China but still...

    • msravi 18 hours ago

      I'm not from the US, but from India, and it's the same here. "Left" and "Right" may be misnomers, but there are effectively two main blocks at the national level, and supporters of each block get slotted into one of the two. Of course there are disagreements between members within each of the two blocks, but ultimately all the fine distinctions boil down to which of these two a voter would choose!

      • StefanBatory 15 hours ago

        Yeah, same for Poland.

        You're either PiS/Konfederacja supporter, or PO/Left/P2050 parties. There is no chance of any other coalition, and everyone knows this.

        Choice is - do you want to dismantle democracy, or would you rather not. Sigh.

  • naiv a day ago

    Same. I follow more 'right' and see also balanced left.

    Thus I was wondering why people were always talking about hate and racism on x.

    Bluesky is a different story, there I exclusively see left wing content. Full of hate.

sschueller 2 days ago

Everyone's x feed is FD. I don't not follow Elon yet his crap posts are littering the app when I open it. It's turned into his personal bullhorn of miss information and rage bating.

  • tbihl a day ago

    FWIW, I can't recall seeing Elon except as retweets. The downsides are the bots, the exodus, and the stupid renaming, but it's been almost entirely improvement to me.

    I was pretty tired of Mastodon and thus happy to return when Elon bought it.

    ETA: I use a preferred subset of my follows for my main feed, a few subject-delineated lists for particular research, and occasionally my "following" feed to branch out.

    • BugsJustFindMe a day ago

      > FWIW, I can't recall seeing Elon except as retweets.

      I had to block his account to not see one of his posts at the top of my screen every time I logged in. I was a casual user and didn't follow anyone (only started logging in when it was impossible to see anything otherwise), so I had what could be called the "default" experience.

    • anarazel a day ago

      I got Elon tweets in my notifications, despite having him blocked. That was the last straw for me.

  • egeozcan 2 days ago

    It's crazy how blatant it is. If you block him and his promoted bunch, you still get occasional fascist/racist bait on the feed. Following feed is also mostly dead because many people I followed left.

  • electrondood 2 days ago

    He's either been radicalized by his own platform, or he's intentionally being provocative to drive engagement, to drive ad revenue. It's disgusting.

    The hypocrisy is absurd. Like telling everyone to go fuck themselves, and then hours later, pleading for users to post more positive content... or making a big show of being worried about using AI untruthfully, and then repeatedly posting AI-generating images smearing people he doesn't like. Pretending like no one had "free speech" until he bought the platform, and then selectively banning vocal dissent he doesn't like.

    He's a child. Such a waste.

    • wsintra2022 a day ago

      He may also have just had an in house AI running his socials for the last few years. Surprising not much discussion around that as a possibility.

      • tombert a day ago

        Even if that's true, he's still cosigning the account isn't he? He's putting his name on it, it's not weird for people to assume that these are his viewpoints and/or opinions, no matter how unhinged.

      • XorNot a day ago

        Why suggest AI when simply paying a social media manager for his twitter account would be a normal thing to have done at his level of wealth?

        Which is something he has obviously done with his grind-centric videogame accounts and actual livestreams of him not knowing how to play on those accounts?

jp57 a day ago

If I were to use this credulously, I'd be committing the same error as believing everything in my X feed.

I have no idea who made this tool or what their biases are, why would I believe their analysis any more than I'd believe a stranger on X? I can't find any information on who is behind this.

The different axes that they uses for analysis (health, political balance, "vibe', etc) are all inherently subjective. How are they measured?

  • refulgentis a day ago

    I very much doubt it even works or tries to, even though a lot of barriers have been lifted recently (I'm handwaving at https://xkcd.com/1425/ x the input being just a video x output sold as rigorous deep analysis)

    I have a stroooong feeling this is just a wrapper around Gemini, as it has video input.

haunter 2 days ago

I just don’t get why don’t people use the “following” tab. You only see people you follow, if they post things you don’t like unfollow them that’s all.

  • that_guy_iain 2 days ago

    Because Twitter switches you a lot and even then you also have all the random notifications from people you don't follow.

    • Oarch 2 days ago

      Old twitter switched you all the time. I even used a plugin to switch me back.

      I've never knew been switched since the acquisition.

      • agos 2 days ago

        during the old twitter times you could use a third party client, that was the trick

    • haunter 2 days ago

      >Because Twitter switches you a lot

      What does that mean? Twiter doesn’t switch my tabs on its own, neither on desktop or mobile.

      >and even then you also have all the random notifications from people you don't follow.

      I only get notifications from people I don’t follow if someone likes my tweets or they reply

      • that_guy_iain 2 days ago

        I feel like you don't use Twitter that much then. Because they added the whole notifications about new posts feature a while back and it's not based on who you follow and I believe famously it's like that so Musk gets more views. And I feel like my tabs get changed on a somewhat frequent basis but I've stopped using it to really keep track.

        • haunter 2 days ago

          I use it all the time and I’ve never seen posts from people I don’t follow. Once again I only use the “following” tab

        • sunaookami 2 days ago

          This is simply not true. Before Musk took over Twitter they constantly switched to the "For You" tab. Only after Musk bought it it was changed so the setting sticks. You can also change your notification settings to the old way (only people you follow, etc.).

          • that_guy_iain 2 days ago

            I think you need to readvise what "simply not true" means. I gave my experience and for you someone who doesn't even know me cannot say what is or is not true about my experiences.

            • theultdev a day ago

              It's not an opinion. It was like that (Twitter), now it's not (X).

              He's telling you your experience is outdated.

              • that_guy_iain a day ago

                > It's not an opinion. It was like that (Twitter), now it's not (X).

                ????????????

                > He's telling you your experience is outdated.

                No, they said what I said was simply not true.

                And my experience is from using the new stuff. There may be technical reasons why it wasn't sticky however in my experience it wasn't as sticky as it should be and I ended up on the crappy feed all the time.

peanut-walrus 2 days ago

Screen recording and processing because it's easier than just scraping now is wild.

  • BugsJustFindMe a day ago

    This way you don't need to trust them with access to your phone.

  • dymk a day ago

    The other option is to give a random website your Twitter username and password or install a browser extension.

yomismoaqui 2 days ago

I made was tired of reading political crap from some accounts I follow and created a Chrome extension to filter them out.

Just define topics you don't want to read about and the AI filter will hide them from your feed.

Technically is just passing the text to Gemini Flash 1.5 with a simple prompt to detect if the tweet is from a forbidden topic.

You can try it here: https://twitter.cercaapp.com

  • sebmellen a day ago

    You saved me from having to make this. Thank you!

    Is the source available? Can this be ported to FireFox?

    • yomismoaqui a day ago

      No source available but the JS code for the extension should be readable on your extensions dir. I'm using MutationObserver to check for tweets appearing and then extract their texts and send them to the server.

      Server side code is just some Go to handle calls to Gemini Flash, auth, tracking quota usage...

      To be honest even the prompt used is quite simple, the fun part has been optimizing it using promptfoo for running the evals.

  • natdude 2 days ago

    Oh cool - its like anti-virus for your brain. AI firewall! haha

natdude 2 days ago

UPDATE:: The uploading function was not working for a large number of users - this has now been fixed! (it was an issue with the callback URL not being set in the .env which meant file upload progress wasn't returned to the client).

If you have attempted to use this previously without success, please retry - it should work fine now :)

PixelForg 2 days ago

It says that my feed is pretty fucked, but I only follow pixel and anime artists :) I unfollow anyone that posts anything other than art repeatedly, I guess it is an echo chamber of some sorts.

https://files.catbox.moe/ehu9pc.jpg

  • natdude 2 days ago

    Oh interesting - thanks for the upload. Ahh - its the N/A political diversity being seen as 'low' when a null should just have no impact on score.

    Thanks! Will work on a fix

    • __rito__ a day ago

      Happened for my feed as well. It had ZERO political content but showed me a fully red bar for lacking political diversity. It showed N/A%.

  • natdude 2 days ago

    Oh interesting - thanks for the upload

chikere232 a day ago

X, such a curious game, the only way to win is not to play

eddieh 2 days ago

Yes. Negatively.

Not sure analysis is needed. Algorithmic feeds are fucked and impact you negatively. All of them!

You have no real control over what you see, they're ephemeral, nobody has a shared experience, and that's _only a few_ things that are fucked.

Havoc 2 days ago

>Record and upload a 1-2 minute screen recording of you scrolling through your X/Twitter feed.

Is that really the only way to get hold of someones feed? It's neat from a tech perspective & very AI...but seems rather cumbersome

  • mingus88 2 days ago

    Would you rather give a random 3rd party API access to your social media? Would you trust X to not leak more than just the first few pages of your feed?

    This way is clumsy but I appreciate that you have absolute control over what you are sharing.

  • natdude 2 days ago

    Yeah I tried for a long time on this! Initially I attempted APIs - but they're locked down and you can't get access to user's feeds.

    Secondly, I tried a chrome extension, but these don't work on mobile devices (80% of social media users) so it was redundant (plus very brittle as it depended on specific DOM elements). Also, a lot of content is video/audio, which isn't well captured by static analysis.

    A video is a bit annoying to take, but yes, it was the only solution I found!

ksec 2 days ago

Again I use Twitter like RSS feeds where I put those people into my list, Hardware, Ruby, Software, Database, Economics etc. If you curate your own list and avoid politics it is mostly fine.

I rarely or ever see any promotional tweets.

_pdp_ 2 days ago

I don't need this tool to tell me how f*** Twitter has become. I already know that. It is mostly junk, highly politicised (how did they allow this to happen after the CA fiasco), and largely dysfunctional with pockets of interesting communities here and there. Not spending either money or time on it anymore.

Tepix 15 hours ago

Another dark pattern used by X that i haven't seen mentioned much:

When you open a link in the webview, it doesn't show the icon to open it in your preferred browser.

When you close it and open it again, the button is there. Clearly they are scared you'll leave and won't come back. That's also why they are downranking links.

iNic 2 days ago

I compared by "Following" tab and "For You" Tab and they got a pretty similar health score ~40%. It wasn't able to analyze the "political diversity" of the Following tab which I will take as a win lol. It seems like the "Vibe" Score was slightly better on the "Following" and the "Non-Violence" score slightly better on "For You". Political Leaning was Center-Left for "Following" and Center for "For You".

My takeaways are as follows. First, I would take these with huge grains of salt. Second, the political leaning distribution is super weird, it is super polarized with a clear lack of "centrist" takes. Third, can someone please explain to me what "non-violence" is in this context (even the guy who only follows are got like 50% on violence??). Fourth, I wish the "vibe" section was expanded upon, my issue with the For You Page is that it hits the middle point of "slop" and "rage-bait" that lulls you into a passive doom-scrolling brain-emptying mooch. The "Vibe" here doesn't seem to capture that, and I can't really put my finger on what the difference is except for "I know it when I see it". Anyways.

PS: You should probably install browser plug-ins that remove the for you page! PPS: You should probably switch to Bluesky.

crusty 3 hours ago

This sends like a great idea... for 2019. Unfortunately it's not 2019 and X isn't Twitter.

Where's section that tells you what percentage of your feed is Elon spouting contemptible nonsense, non-Elons raging at Elon's contemptible nonsense, or the muffled whines of even other non-Elons as their contemptible reguritations of Elon's contemptible nonsense squeezes past Elon's sphincter?

CactusBlue 2 days ago

I've had a particularly bad breakup with my ex-girlfriend who I met on Twitter (I was the one responsible for the falling out), and I had to delete my Twitter account for two reasons:

1. The open, "town-square" nature of Twitter meant that it was easy to run into each other again, and she was feeling uncomfortable sharing space with me.

2. This was taking a huge toll on my mental health at the time, because just being on Twitter (or any of the many Twitter clones, for that matter) was reminding me of my relationship with her, just because of how the algorithm worked.

I still think Twitter provided value for me as a startup founder, for marketing and networking purposes. But It wasn't really matter of if it provided value or not; Twitter was driving me to death in the most literal sense of the word possible. To choose life, I chose to leave Twitter.

As someone whose startup builds social platforms, I am extremely turned off by the idea of "public square" models for the internet, after these incidents. We shouldn't aim to get everyone into a single feed, where you are given a curated feed, designed to engage you for as long as possible for the whims of advertisers, as opposed to the utility of the users.

  • polygon87 2 days ago

    Apologizes if this is insensitive, but was one of you blocking or muting the other an option? I’ve muted all my exes on IG.

    • CactusBlue 2 days ago

      We did block each other mutually, but the world is a small place, and the algorithm works to ensure that the world is a small place, as you're usually only one or two degrees of separation away.

nenaoki 2 days ago

Nice job. It should ignore ads imho, my top 2 "largest influences" were just ads. I mean, I guess we do influence ads via engagement or whatnot, but it's not as if I pay mind to an ad the way I pay mind to a post.

My card: https://files.catbox.moe/t8rzlb.png

  • natdude 2 days ago

    Thanks, that's a good point - do you think some analysis of advertising would interest you?

    There may only be a couple of ads per 'sample' though, so maybe not enough to be interesting.

    • nenaoki 2 days ago

      I reckon it's mostly noise. An ad I saw three times in the sample was just an awful mobile game I don't deserve to be subject to ads about, and the other ad I saw twice was just based on my location.

natdude 2 days ago

Newly released! Feedback would be great!

  • mandelken 2 days ago

    I keep getting an error “your file exceeds the maximum allowed size” or something. It’s a clip of 1:20 on iphone. I tried clipping it to 1 min but then it wouldn’t allow upload. I exported the clip to files and then uploaded but same error. How may I reduce the file size on my iPhone?

  • nbittich 2 days ago

    Just tried it, says it's fcked but I don't agree. There is zero political tweets on the feed analyzed, yet it says center left; it's basically just tech tweets.

    • the_mitsuhiko 2 days ago

      I’m not sure how that thing works and I haven’t tried it, but even my tech tweets on the feed are sometimes deeply political these days.

      • nbittich 2 days ago

        I've the maximum muted words (200), literally muted country names so maybe that's why my feed is clean ish. Wish there was no limit though, still get some ai stuff sometimes

  • mthoms 15 hours ago

    This is very cool.

    I'm curious about how you process the video feed; Do you stitch it back together as one long image and then perform OCR? Or just look at every N frames?

    I've been looking for an open source library that helps with taking a scrolling video and then stitching it into an image but I haven't had much luck.

skywhopper a day ago

Not sure why anyone sane keeps using X. Bluesky has reached critical mass at this point and has proven its reliability under pressure, and has far better tools for managing your feed.

  • bdangubic a day ago

    people are sheep :) they will believe that X was bought to usher a new are of “freedom of speech” so if most X users believe this (they do) why would they ever leave? going to bluesky is like leaving your own parents to go to foster parents

    • rexpop a day ago

      Why do most users believe this when it's obvious to me that Musk is a petty tyrant who bought X to expand his petty tyranny?

      • bdangubic 18 hours ago

        trying to understand masses is a recipe for many sleepless nights? hard to understand stupidity :)

medhir 2 days ago

If you find your X feed is fucked, bluesky is right there and offers complete algorithm customization… the network effects aren’t as strong but at least there’s some options to better control the experience.

  • CactusBlue 2 days ago

    Bsky does not fix any of the core problems with Twitter. It's still fundamentally a "town square" with algorithmic feeds that keep you engaged. It actively tries to transplant the culture of Twitter to itself, which is something that I don't wish to deal with at all.

    • astrange 2 days ago

      It has totally optional algorithmic feeds, and the ones it does have don't work (they only show me spambots) so there's no motivation to use them.

    • auniff 2 days ago

      It presents itself as a "town square" but because the platform has such strong behaviour in severing interactions between accounts, in practice it consists lots of isolated silos of users echoing the same views to each other ad infinitum.

      A forum like HN is much more of a town square because pretty much everyone sees the same content in every set of comments, with just one toggle ("showdead") to modify that.

  • TiredOfLife 2 days ago

    Bluesky doesn't even have a following feed like twitter (where only posts by people you follow show up)

    • drusepth a day ago

      The two feeds on Bluesky are "Following" (only posts by people you follow show up) and "Discover" (largely dominated by posts by people you don't follow). There are two huge tabs at the top of your feed to switch between them.

      If you are following 0 people, the "Following" feed acts similar to the "Discover" feed. As soon as you follow a single person, it works as you'd expect (only showing content from people you've followed).

      • TiredOfLife a day ago

        I follow multiple people. The following tab shows a couple of their posts and the rest is just random posters

        • CommieBobDole a day ago

          Something is terribly wrong, then; my following feed shows posts (and certain replies) from people I follow in reverse chronological order, and nothing else, ever.

          Are you maybe seeing things that have been reposted by people you follow? There's a lot of that, but those still count as "posts from people you follow". If you want to exclude those, there are settings at the following link:

          https://bsky.app/settings/following-feed

          Also if you just want to not see them sometimes, there's a feed you can add called 'OnlyPosts':

          https://bsky.app/profile/skyfeed.xyz/feed/only-posts

          • TiredOfLife a day ago

            Those settings did nothing.

            And that only-posts feed is even stranger. It only shows 3 days. People I follow have months of posts.

    • add-sub-mul-div 2 days ago

      What the hell are you talking about, that's the default view.

      • TiredOfLife a day ago

        It might be default view but its filled with posts by people i don't follow

        • add-sub-mul-div a day ago

          You can turn off retweets and replies. If you're going to use software with only the default options, at least don't spread misinformation about what you failed to try to learn.

          • TiredOfLife a day ago

            I am not talking about replies and retweets. Those are literally posts from people I dont follow and are not reposts. 4 day old post is followed by posts posted only hours ago.

            • rideontime a day ago

              You must be misunderstanding something.

            • add-sub-mul-div a day ago

              Maybe you're looking at the "Discover" tab and not the default one which is called "Following".

              One scenario where chronology is confusing is when a reply to an earlier tweet takes its chronological place in the timeline but also includes the earlier tweet for context.

              • TiredOfLife a day ago

                I am looking at the tab called Following. I even turned off quotes, replies and mentions. It still shows only 3 days (yesterday it was 4 days) of posts by followers followed by random crap.

2024user a day ago

1-2 min video doesn't feel sufficient. Alternatively, a few screenshots uploaded to chatgpt would give the same idea.

  • natdude a day ago

    Fair - the video could be expanded to be way bigger (1000s of posts)

    I found 1-2 minutes was decent (30+ sample size on average), and a tradeoff for convenience. Background sampling would be ideal but privacy concerns and technical limitations (especially on mobile devices)

eska 2 days ago

I only have an X account so I can read tweets that are mentioned on the news or in blog posts. If I ever look at my timeline I see a bunch of AI generated thirst traps.

subjectsigma 6 hours ago

If you’re at all worried that your social media feeds from any one website are ruining your mental health, I would suggest just not using them period. Why risk it?

hk1337 a day ago

I don't know if I deleted my account or if logging in with Apple Sign In quit working.

Gooblebrai 2 days ago

Is this analyzing the video with AI?

whoitwas 2 days ago

If you're using X or any other social media, the answer is yes and so are you.

ldng 16 hours ago

Just. Quit. It.

courseofaction 5 hours ago

It is incredibly sad that the world's richest man was allowed to buy and trash a public square. Worse is coming.

He cheats at video games, lies about it, and knee-jerk abuses his power over twitter to ban and personally attack people who point this out.

America bought this shit, and now it's going to pay for it.

electrondood 2 days ago

"For You" is an engine designed to provoke an emotional reaction (engagement) from you at any cost, to the detriment of your mental health. Mine was filled with people getting into fights, toxic right-wing misogyny, "karen calling the cops" videos, etc.

Twitter has a perverse financial incentive to capture and hold your attention, and negative attention is far easier to provoke.

  • templeOSdotcom a day ago

    Isn't that the case for the vast majority of social media?

    • matthewdgreen a day ago

      It's like the difference between Bacardi 151 and Michelob Ultra.