Why is a private company with fewer than 200 employees "China"/"the Chinese"?
Or, why isn't OpenAI "America"/"the Americans"?
Also, wasn't DeepSeek founded by a hedge fund that was specializing exactly in these kinds of financial operations? Perhaps their training data is just way more finance focused than OpenAI because of that?
OpenAI is stereotypically (modern/contemporary) American. There's the glorification of the founder(s), the mediocre and overhyped product, the weird talks and keynotes given by the leader(s) that are both delusional and hype generating, the insane valuations, topped off with enough drama to keep the news cycle focused on them. The American dream, or something. It's bizarre and not seen that often outside of the US.
I don't see why it wouldn't be "American", and I think it goes without saying that it is.
It is really fun and sarcastic to watch all this happening. U.S. Gov. tried to block China from accessing GPU resources very hardly to stop their AI development, but actually helped China to take a leap on developing efficient and more cost-effective LLM model with constraint GPU access.
And then "China" (which is actually a bunch of super generous folks at DeepSeek) decides to release it all back to the US under a permissive MIT license.
They could've just exposed an API and kept the model to themselves but they didn't!
They could've not published their research paper, but they did, again and again - and each time they publish they discuss not just the techniques that DO work, but those that don't - saving researchers everywhere from loads of dead ends.
That is pure awesome. Thank you DeepSeek engineers for your gift to humanity.
Facts. OpenAI thought they had a moat, but even with the shittiest of GPUs, China managed to developer a better, faster, and cheaper mode, AND they open-sourced it.
Why is a private company with fewer than 200 employees "China"/"the Chinese"?
Or, why isn't OpenAI "America"/"the Americans"?
Also, wasn't DeepSeek founded by a hedge fund that was specializing exactly in these kinds of financial operations? Perhaps their training data is just way more finance focused than OpenAI because of that?
It matters because of the ridiculous regulations imposed by the US on China. Even despite them, they've built a better model.
I HIGHLY doubt it was built for these type of operations.
OpenAI is stereotypically (modern/contemporary) American. There's the glorification of the founder(s), the mediocre and overhyped product, the weird talks and keynotes given by the leader(s) that are both delusional and hype generating, the insane valuations, topped off with enough drama to keep the news cycle focused on them. The American dream, or something. It's bizarre and not seen that often outside of the US.
I don't see why it wouldn't be "American", and I think it goes without saying that it is.
It is really fun and sarcastic to watch all this happening. U.S. Gov. tried to block China from accessing GPU resources very hardly to stop their AI development, but actually helped China to take a leap on developing efficient and more cost-effective LLM model with constraint GPU access.
And then "China" (which is actually a bunch of super generous folks at DeepSeek) decides to release it all back to the US under a permissive MIT license.
They could've just exposed an API and kept the model to themselves but they didn't!
They could've not published their research paper, but they did, again and again - and each time they publish they discuss not just the techniques that DO work, but those that don't - saving researchers everywhere from loads of dead ends.
That is pure awesome. Thank you DeepSeek engineers for your gift to humanity.
I couldn't agree more. China has: * weaker GPUs * a smaller model * started with nothing
And now they're building better, faster, and cheaper models at a fraction of the cost. It's hilarious and exciting.
Speaking of sarcasm, and thinking about your argument, should we start selling them cutting edge GPUs to slow down their research?
No one wants to talk about the amount of catching up the West needs to do in areas of AI and robotics/drones
Facts. OpenAI thought they had a moat, but even with the shittiest of GPUs, China managed to developer a better, faster, and cheaper mode, AND they open-sourced it.
With that being said, Llama 4 will be CRAZY
In some ways the discussion on banning DJI is also a discussion of simultaneously stimulating a few home-grown companies.