points by palmotea a year ago

> Trump got just over 1/3 of eligible US votes.

Sorry, that's kind of bullshit. Stating things that way is just spin to mischaracterize the actual result.

> almost 1/3 of the US eligible voters didn't vote at all.

Things are weird now. The indications I've been seeing is the less engaged the voter, the more they tended to support Trump. So if those people voted, Trump would have probably have had a bigger win. In prior years, those voters would have tended to support Democrats, but not anymore.

The Democrats got rejected badly. They lost to a dangerous buffoon. Instead of sticking their heads in the sand, they need to own that loss and internalize what that means about them.

mcphage a year ago

> Instead of sticking their heads in the sand, they need to own that loss and internalize what that means about them.

Is that actually true? I've been around ~45 years, and the Republicans have been in and out of power repeatedly during that span. But I don't think they've ever owned a loss, and I don't think they've ever internalizing what it means about them. And it hasn't stopped them from coming back into power, once the mess from their last misadventure has been cleaned up.

  • palmotea a year ago

    > And it hasn't stopped them from coming back into power, once the mess from their last misadventure has been cleaned up.

    I'm sure the Democrats at some point will come back into power in a 50%+1 squeaker, but that will be bad for the country and another step in its decline.

    If they want to be the people to actually answer this crisis, instead of ratifying it, they damn well better own thier loss and internalize what that means about them. They lost to Trump, twice, FFS. The only Democrat who could beat him was a fossil from another time (and he only won by a hair). The Democrats suck. They need reform into something else for the sake of the God-damned country.

    • mcphage a year ago

      > I'm sure the Democrats at some point will come back into power in a 50%+1 squeaker

      > If they want to be the people to actually answer this crisis, instead of ratifying it

      Honestly? I'm not convinced they do—they seem to be content swapping back and forth, saying "well at least we're not evil". Which like sure, they're not trying to burn the country down, and that's a good thing, but they don't seem to be putting any effort in stopping the country from being burned down by the Republicans. And that's not a good thing.

      I guess all that's to say, I agree with you.