franciscop 11 months ago

I expect CVEs to be directly proportional to project usage and popularity, and inversely proportional to maturity, which makes things a lot more complicated.

  • delusional 11 months ago

    And also directly proportional to the publicity of the CVE system. If you're creative enough in your writing, any bug in any program can be filed as a CVE, and filing CVEs is much more interesting carreer wise than filing bug reports.

    Any decently sized project has probably seen an increase in reported CVEs over the past 5 years, simply because the number of CVEs total has grown.

  • sigmoid10 11 months ago

    I'd also expect average CVSS severities to go down over time. While they definitely did get significantly lower in 2024, there's still some high severity stuff in 2025.

jeroenhd 11 months ago

Looking through these CVEs, very few of the recent entries seem to be actual security bugs. Most are run-of-the-mill bugs as far as I can tell.

If a kernel panic is considered a security issue, anyone using Nvidia's drivers should fear for their lives.

  • gkbrk 11 months ago

    > If a kernel panic is considered a security issue

    It's normal to consider a non-root userspace program causing a kernel panic a security issue

    • delusional 11 months ago

      That very much depends on your security posture. For a desktop computer, with a single user, panicking the kernel is at most a mild inconvenience. As it's said, it's a denial of service, but the service being denied is your own service.

      • mjg59 11 months ago

        It's normal to consider it a security issue. Whether you consider it your security issue is contextual.

      • Rygian 11 months ago

        Security, as the reunion of Confidentiality, Integrity, and Availability (CIA), definitely includes vulnerabilities where a malicious user can trigger a kernel panic, as it impacts Availability directly, and potentially Integrity as well in an indirect way.

        The distinction you make is a separate step down the line: you do a risk assessment and decide that, in your particular context, a specific vulnerability is not a threat worth defending against.

        For that same vulnerability, others will reach different conclusions in their respective risk assessments.

        That doesn't make it any less of a vulnerability.

      • tsimionescu 11 months ago

        If you can install a program that runs at system startup and panics the kernel, that's beyond mild inconvenience - it's potentially a major IT scramble for a whole company's fleet, for example. Even for a server machine, it might require complicated debug procedures and/or physical access, since you can no longer just SSH into the system.

      • fmajid 11 months ago

        io_uring is meant for high performance I/O, in other words server use. The desktop is almost entirely irrelevant.

        • lillecarl 11 months ago

          High performance server use is just tomorrow's desktop. My fancy rust terminal filemanager uses io_uring, probably mostly for nerdcred.

  • dmvdoug 11 months ago

    This has to do with their policy on assigning CVE numbers, which is that pretty much any bugfix might be security-related because it’s the kernel, so it doesn’t take much to get a number assigned. See https://docs.kernel.org/process/cve.html.

    • chris_wot 11 months ago

      I seem to recall that Linus Torvalds has the opinion that he doesn’t much treat security bugs more differently than he does regular kernel bugs. Perhaps this is why?

      • dmvdoug 11 months ago

        Yes, but it became more than just Linus and Greg’s view that couldn’t be overcome by outside argument, and became more formally Kernel Policy once they became a CVE number assigning authority.

Retr0id 11 months ago

It seems a little dubious to brand something "insecure" based on the number of fixed bugs.

Is io_uring a complex and therefore bug-prone API surface? perhaps.

The `curl` project has a similar number of CVEs listed if you search for it, but we generally don't characterise curl as insecure.

If you're not using io_uring then it could make sense to disable it as a hardening measure, but I don't think the existence of now-fixed CVEs is a reason not to use it.