points by Kiro 7 days ago

I presume "by virtue of you seeing it" includes other conditions or I don't understand how you can claim such a thing.

estearum 7 days ago

Where exactly have you seen art that wasn’t made to be sold? Be specific.

  • Kiro 7 days ago

    Friends, family, coworkers, my own, random posts online, everywhere.

    • estearum 7 days ago

      Ah yes, the very normal activity of showing your coworkers your hobbyist art! Is this happening a couple dozen times per day?

      • Kiro 6 days ago

        It happens quite often, yes. They are concept artists and designers but they share their own stuff. And just now I opened up Discord and skimmed through some art, pixel art and drawings channels in the many servers I'm in and saw a lot of art that I doubt anyone is trying to sell. People just love to share their creations.

        • estearum 6 days ago

          Yes if you are friends with and deeply networked with professional artists and designers, you'll see a lot more hobby art. Most people are not friends with even one (never mind several) professional artists though.

          This scenario is irrelevant to my main thesis anyway, which is that people principally do not develop artistry to the levels required for strangers to care about it without doing so as a professional pursuit.

          That you get to see the exhaust and byproducts of such a professional pursuit isn't a point against it.

      • fragmede 7 days ago

        Via Instagram, while they're showing off pictures of their kids and their hobbies... yes? Do you show only your coworkers, what, system diagrams of work things making the between work times still also about work?

        Different places have different cultures, apparently your coworkers aren't to know anything about you beyond what's necessary for them to work with you, but across the whole world, not everywhere is like that, and it seems unnecessary to state that you don't live in such a place in that way.