asdefghyk 2 days ago

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  • etblg 2 days ago

    > 67,000 Palestinians

    > 30,000 Hamas fighters

    those are different things.

  • NomDePlum 2 days ago

    Can you provide a citation for that? I can't find any record of that claim.

    • asdefghyk 2 days ago

      I thought I read it as a quote from Trump in a local ( my country wide newspaper ) media article - my recollection with in the last about 2 weeks. I latched on to it because I thought Trump would be getting high level briefing about this stuff , and he let this number slip .... I've searched for it , but can not find the quote ... If I find it I will post a link.

      • NomDePlum a day ago

        Ok,so unverified. Which given this is the most quoted person on the planet I'd suggest you've likely mistakenly misinterpreted something else and shouldn't rely on its use for now.

        • asdefghyk a day ago

          Trump may not have been exaggerating when he indicated on Truth Social on Oct. 3 that Hamas had lost 25,000 fighters.

          A very significant part of the claimed number of deaths in my opinion

  • tovej 2 days ago

    Trumps figure is probably more misleading. But even if you believe it, it's not a contradiction, is it? Hamas foghters would be a subset of all Palestinians, and 30000 is less than 67000.

    67000 is, for the record, an underestimate, as the only recorded deaths are ones that happen in hospitals. With Israel's indiscriminate bombing campaign, many have been lost under rubble, and with hospitals being bombed, reporting has slowed down in the last year while the genocide has continued to become worse.

    • dlubarov 2 days ago

      > the only recorded deaths are ones that happen in hospitals

      This was only true early in the conflict; Hamas has long since been adding in casualties reported by "reliable media sources" as well as a Google form.

      • sporkxrocket 2 days ago

        This is false. Reporting has slowed down as the hospitals have all been bombed. They don't use a "Google form", almost all of the infrastructure in Gaza has been destroyed by Israel during the genocide.

        • dlubarov 2 days ago

          No, there was literally a public Google form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScndnMojIJoflfSPTD2...

          They later moved to a self-hosted form, which remains available to anyone who wants to report a purported casualty: https://sehatty.ps/moh-registration/public/add-order

          This has been well known since early last year, when Hamas themselves spoke about their incorporation of these other sources.

          Casualty reports slowed down presumably because the fighting slowed down; in any case it's not a reason to make assumptions about Hamas' methodology that are contradicted by easily verifiable facts.

          • sporkxrocket a day ago

            You're going to need to provide some documentation to back up your claim. Fighting hasn't slowed. They've been killing roughly 100 Palestinians a day. Most of the killings are documented by people on the ground.