sedatk 2 hours ago

I was there today. We happened to notice the smoke over Kilauea while driving to Hilo, then checked out USGS cams, and immediately drove there and spent the next 7 hours getting mesmerized.

As my first eruption encounter, I didn’t expect to experience several things like the heat even from a long distance, enough to keep me warm in my shorts at 60F, and the loud rumble, like a giant waterfall. The flow of lava was way faster than I expected too, almost like oil.

Mind blown.

  • kzrdude 34 minutes ago

    Hawaii volcanism is what geologists seem to call "nice and friendly" - low viscosity lava, not prone to explosive eruptions (unlike the stratovolcanoes of the Andes or the Pacific rim in general) - this is because it's caused by hotspot volcanism in Hawaii.

whyage 11 hours ago

Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park is absolutely stunning (and safe, away from the closed area). It's like being on a different planet. If you haven't been to the Big Island and the park, you should add it to your bucket list.

  • ridgeguy 9 hours ago

    Decades ago, my wife and I visited the Big Island during a fairly sedate eruption. We drove down Chain of Craters Road, got to see a tiny lava flow (talking like a couple feet of glowing honey), but were wanting more. In the distance, we could see a huge steam column where a lava stream was reaching the sea. We asked one of the ever-attendant Park Rangers if we could walk over there. He said no.

    But then he said - we close at 5pm, and there are no gates. OK, we can take a hint.

    We drove to Hilo and bought cheap tennis and flashlights, then scurried back down Chain of Craters after 6. As the sky darkened, we walked towards the steam column. The rocks beneath our feet showed incandescent glows deep in the cracks, and we started to smell burned rubber from our cheap tennis. Eventually, we came to the lava outfall.

    We watched nearly an hour as a river of molten rock cascaded into the ocean. We used our water bottles on our shoe soles, turning back when we ran dry.

    I now understand that we were stupid - apparently the park loses a few tourists to shelf collapse each year - but we lived, and the memory is a treasure. Thank you, Mr. Ranger.

    And yes, it's like being on a different planet - like being on our own, maybe 4 billion years ago.

    • 14 8 hours ago

      Not stupid. Just experiencing life and sometimes amazing experiences have a chance of danger. You get to choose what risk levels you are okay with. Props to that ranger who agreed with that belief.

      • kbenson 7 hours ago

        Choosing your risk level and working within it isn't stupid. Not knowing the risk when it's easy to gather some more info and then acting in ignorance is, which is what GP was describing, and likely why they called their own actions stupid.

      • ridgeguy 8 hours ago

        At that time, we had no kids & no pets, nobody directly dependent on us. That figured in our conversation on the drive to Hilo. Nowdays, we might come to a different conclusion, but I'm glad for the path we chose then.

        • serf 5 hours ago

          it's all whimsy and adventure -- but the reality is that you're not just risking your own lives but also the lives of potential rescuers.

          just food for thought. I'm not about to say one should lead a safe and sterile life, but there is more to it than direct dependents.

          • ljlolel 4 hours ago

            Though rescuers did consciously choose that role and that they’d be saving ignorant people very often

          • parineum 4 hours ago

            Rescuers choose their jobs too.

        • bombcar 8 hours ago

          Especially since that path didn’t collapse ;)

  • postalcoder 7 hours ago

    Haleakalā is like this as well. Don't just drive up the crater - hike through the thing. It's a ~12 mile hike. It's a remarkable experience because the landscape changes so frequently and dramatically from desert to tropical forest.

    The only comp to this is like the transition in Max Max from the desert to the oasis.

    Tourists that drive to the crater, take pictures, and drive down have no idea what they're missing.

    • ZeWaka 4 hours ago

      Highly recommend camping in the crater on a clear night around new moon. Some of the best stars you'll see. Seeing the sun rise in the crater gap (where you can sometimes see the big island) is stunning.

      Park in the lower lot, hitchhike to the top (or get someone else to drive you), and then you can hike back up to your car the next day on the switchbacks.

      Do not attempt to hike up the sliding sands trail you took down, it's *very rough*.

  • magicalhippo 11 hours ago

    Sadly there was an ongoing eruption when me and my SO visited the Big Island, so the entire park was closed. Was a bit bummed out, on the other hand people lost their homes so keeping it in perspective.

    That said, I second visiting the Big Island and visit various sites. Driving less than an hour and going from barren volcanic landscapes to lush rainforests was something else, and watching the sunset from Mauna Kea was magical. And lots of great beaches, and most that weren't next to a resort had very few people.

    While the island is big relative to the other Hawaiian islands, its small enough that you can drive around it in a day.

    I'd recommend staying on the Kona side, which is the dry and somewhat barren side. The Hilo side has rainforests for a reason.

    • DavidPeiffer 8 hours ago

      What struck me about the big island is that it has 8 of the 13 climate zones, and you can go around the perimeter of the island in about 5 hours.

      I loved going up Mauna Kea visitor center and stargazing. At ~11,000 feet, it's one of the best places in the world for naked eye stargazing. You're literally above the clouds, the island has strict rules about exterior lights at night to minimize light pollution, and you're above the thickest air. I wasn't expecting to see the Milky Way so easily.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way#/media/File:Milky_Wa...

    • skybrian 9 hours ago

      The Big Island has good B&B's in many parts of the island so I recommend staying in multiple places, to see the local sights without a long drive afterwards.

    • shevy-java 11 hours ago

      A university professor here visits many areas. He complained by far the most of the dust in the air that stuck around for quite a while there.

  • ChuckMcM 3 hours ago

    Definitely a place to visit if you can. I traveled there in 1983 just as it was starting to erupt and visited a lot of places that are now under lava rock! In a later visit we were walking out to see one of the "peep holes" where you can see the lava down below and the rocks started getting slippery, except they weren't slippery it was our shoe soles melting, oops.

  • spike021 6 hours ago

    As postal mentioned below, Haleakalā is fantastic for that.

    Also, I recently visited Mt. Aso in southern Kyushu of Japan and it really felt like I was on Mars.

  • anonymousiam 7 hours ago

    Went there a little over a year ago. The steam vents were active, but no eruptions. The exhibits are wonderful and the birdsong in the evening is amazing.

    • quercus 6 hours ago

      birdsong? are you talking about coqui frogs?

  • kakacik 3 hours ago

    How would you compare it to Iceland regarding volcanoes and all? Thats what we Europeans have in our backyard and its a properly stunning and otherwordly experience.

emmelaich 8 hours ago

I had a look at the crater using Google maps. Does this user contributed photo look AI to anyone? Or at least 'shopped. https://maps.app.goo.gl/or6gj5XnTCTwv4Ys7

  • jcranmer 7 hours ago

    That photo is pretty clearly fake.

    * The steam from lava should be arising from where the lava hits the lava, boiling it--there's not going to be any steam from the interior of a lava tube, because all of the water will have boiled out long ago.

    * It looks like somebody dumped a photo of a black rock field on top of a different image. There's a sploch of a normal tan-sand beach at the base of part of this cliffs; in recent lava activity, the lava will extend fully into the ocean and collapse. Given that the edge of the lava is a) pretty towering and yet b) some distance from the sea.

    * The lava activity in the extreme foreground is pretty sketchy. It's not entirely implausible to have lava flowing into a pit like that in some fashion, but there's also no clear source from the lava, and real Hawaiian lava flows tend to look somewhat different than that.

    * Lava flows downhill from a rift zone. Where's the rift zone here? It's basically a wall of black rock. Photogammetry is not my strong suit, but the presumably dried lava is towering above the treetops in the distance, and yet there's no clear sense of where the lava is flowing from.

    * In the background, you see something more akin to a stratovolcano (actually, might well be an eroded granite dike or some other weird formation like that as opposed to a volcano in the first place). Hawaiian volcanoes are shield volcanoes, they don't look like that. Also, Kilauea and Mauna Loa are too active to really have the deeply-eroded look like that. You have to go to Kohala on the Big Island to get that kind of look.

    * Kilauea is nowhere near the ocean. (Also, shield volcano, you can't see the top from the base.)

    * There's another island clearly visible in the background. None of the Hawaiian islands are close enough to each other to generally be visible from one another! And certainly not from any view of Kilauea, which is the last volcano in the chain that's above sea level. (Loihi still has another 3,000 feet to go before it pokes above the surface.)

    • pfdietz 7 hours ago

      Not saying this isn't fake, but erupting lava produces plenty of volatiles, including steam. These gases coming out of solution is what drives it to the surface.

    • polishdude20 3 hours ago

      You can actually sometimes see the big Island from the Haleakala summit!

  • AstroNutt 8 hours ago

    Nothing looks right. The waterfall of lava to the caldera. How do you get magma ring above a non erupting caldera? It's 100% fake.

  • dawnerd 7 hours ago

    There's a lot of really spammy data on Google maps that should be pretty easy for them to detect too. Go look at some remote locations and you'll find lots of images that advertise businesses, products and all sorts. Wondering if they're using it for image hosting.

  • IAmGraydon 7 hours ago

    That user has submitted 58,000 photos. It's AI. Everyone should be reporting the photo and the account.

  • pimlottc 8 hours ago

    It’s not real, lava has not flowed into the ocean for many years.

  • csomar 8 hours ago

    Are these giant buildings over there? Would be easy to check their existence (though the photo could be real but the lava is not)

ekjhgkejhgk 5 minutes ago

Just a planet popping a zit.

stevenhubertron 12 hours ago

That arcing of the lava really is something to behold. The pressures to push molten rock like that are impressive.

  • asdfman123 8 hours ago

    It's just the weight of literally everything on the planet pushing down, as well as miles of rock :)

    • louthy 2 hours ago

      “just” is doing a lot of heavy lifting there ;)

  • 867-5309 11 hours ago

    icy what you did there

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  • hnburnsy 11 hours ago

    Looks like the camera and stream are still active...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BqmpkUdMtyA

    • reincarnate0x14 10 hours ago

      They have three cameras, well, had three. The south rim camera (v3) was overrun by the eruption at about 0957 local time, you can rewind the stream and watch its final moments.

    • yuliyp 9 hours ago

      Starting at 9:46 is when it goes from wow to WOW. The last 2 minutes in particular are incredible, including the bizarre artifacts in the last 15 seconds before the stream dies.

accrual 10 hours ago

It's wild to see this footage safely behind a monitor. Kind of macabre to ponder but I wonder if the victims of Pompeii had a similar experience. The last we see is a hailstorm of ash and molten lava raining down then signal lost.

  • fsckboy 9 hours ago

    there is a poignant set of images taken by a photographer Robert Landsburg who chose to post himself too close to the blow up of the top of Mount Saint Helens in 1980.

    the last picture from his salvaged camera is similar to what we see for this topic: https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads... his camera was found under this body, with speculation that he was protecting it, which doesn't seem unlikely, but it also would not be surprising for him not to have had that presence of mind, things were happening very quickly.

    https://allthatsinteresting.com/robert-landsburg

    • tobyjsullivan 2 hours ago

      From that article:

      After taking his final photograph, Landsburg removed the roll of film from his camera and placed it in a canister. He buried the camera and the film canister deep in his backpack. Then, he placed the backpack on the seat next to him and covered it with his body.

      It was more than just jumping on top of his camera. Sounds like there’s some confidence about his intention.

  • toss1 9 hours ago

    iirc, Pompeii was a pyroclastic flow [0], a fast-moving current of hot gas and volcanic matter with speeds between 100-700 km/hr and temperatures up to 1000°C. So, probably something like that, but a lot bigger, faster, and arriving faster from further away.

    I was surprised how long the camera lasted getting buried. It'd be a not good end.

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroclastic_flow

    • kzrdude 29 minutes ago

      Just to add, there are two main categories of volcanism, shield volcanoes (hot spots, mid ocean ridges) and stratovolcanoes (continental and subduction zone volcanoes). Hawaii is the first kind ("tourist friendly"), Vesuvius at Pompeii is the latter kind (not friendly). The main difference is the silica content, the stratovolcano lava is sticky and viscous; it gets stuck and things get explosive and nasty.

      We have a lot of stratovolcanoes around the pacific rim so it's eruptions like those that we should compare with Pompeii, and not really Hawaii.

      The two categories also produce, in general, different kinds of rock.

    • fsckboy 9 hours ago

      i just posted a sister comment to yours about the Mt St Helens explosion, with a picture from 1980, and then i noticed that they are calling (it's a non technical article) what rained down in the photograph onto the camera and photographer "pyroclastic flow" and it looks very similar to what happened here.

      • db48x an hour ago

        This is not a pyroclastic flow and doesn’t look even remotely similar. The problem is that you’re comparing a very close up image of some lava falling on a camera to videos taken from tens of miles away from Mt St Helens. The scale and nature of the event are completely different.

        Weirdly if you are going to be hit by a pyroclastic flow then it won’t be moving across your field of view at all. It’ll just be getting bigger and angrier–looking for the minute or two that you have left in your life.

    • asdfman123 8 hours ago

      Yeah, they likely saw it racing down the mountain and then met their doom fairly immediately.

jcranmer 11 hours ago

Kilauea is more or less constantly erupting. This is the 38th eruptive episode since in the past year: https://www.usgs.gov/volcanoes/kilauea/science/eruption-info... (note that the 38th episode started a few hours ago as of this message). Although this is still considered "one" eruption by USGS.

  • dboreham 8 hours ago

    Although it will stop erupting any time I get on a plane headed there. Same for Iceland.

andsoitis an hour ago

Worth watching: Into the Inferno, a film by Werner Herzog in which he depicts the relationship between active volcanoes and the humans who live in their shadows.

egeozcan 2 hours ago

Probably this amazing capture is worth more than a hundred times the price of the camera, yet the geek in me feels really sad when perfectly functional hardware gets destroyed :)

  • georgefrowny 5 minutes ago

    Definitely don't think about how much "nice" equipment is bought, used once or twice and then sits in a cupboard forever until disposed of in a skip when someone dies or a company goes under and the building is cleared.

    My last place had a whole box full of FPGA dev boards that I would have killed to play with as an undergrad.

333c 4 hours ago

The AI narration was off-putting, but the video footage was cool.

  • iamtedd 3 hours ago

    That is not AI. The same voice narrates at least two years ago. Just scroll down in the channel's video list.

    • Deukhoofd 3 hours ago

      The description of the video states it is in fact AI:

      > A synthesized text-to-video voiceover was used in the narration for this story.

      • asymmetric 2 hours ago

        Where does it say that? I can’t see it in the video description.

  • moffkalast 3 hours ago

    Well it would've been better if they kept the video on the actual camera that ate it instead of switching back and forth constantly. It's not Liam Neeson climbing a fence, guys.

clbrmbr 9 hours ago

When I walked across the crater as a kid, I remember there was an inner crater that I was told had filled up with lava back in the 80s and then drained down leaving a deep well. Does someone have a map of the historical eruption locations within the main summit crater?

GaggiX an hour ago

>A synthesized text-to-video voiceover was used in the narration for this story.

I wasn't even realizing it without reading this in the description.

omnicognate 11 hours ago

This was incredible to watch, and I have to chuckle at this title. It's obvious why the webcam matters, with people round the world watching, but the destruction of a webcam is such a tiny thing in comparison to the eruption itself it's strangely funny.

  • DonHopkins 11 hours ago

    Would be nice to have a mobile phone live streaming webcam viewer that vibrates when the webcam is destroyed!

Mistletoe 11 hours ago

The final moments of the webcam were even better than I had hoped.

  • qingcharles 9 hours ago

    That thing took a licking and kept on ticking.

quotemstr 9 hours ago

I'd love to learn more about the specific failure mode towards the end. As the eruption debris approach the camera, we see glowing rock up close. The camera then flashes purple for some reason, goes black, then returns to streaming for a few more seconds, recording a vague orange glow. After that, it's gone for good.

  • zootboy 5 hours ago

    A little bit of educated guessing on my part:

    The purple frames have a bunch of gradients to white, which looks a lot like what happens when the infrared filter on most color cameras is removed and a bunch of IR light is shone into then. For some reason the green cells are less sensitive to IR, which results in a purple-ish hue. So in this case, perhaps the lava striking the camera melted through the lens holder and shifted the IR filter out of place, or is just able to shine intense IR light into the gap between the filter and the sensor.

    In those same frames, the dark areas with noisy borders are I believe an artifact of the CMOS sensor digitization process when cells get strongly overwhelmed. I've seen the same patterns on cameras where an extremely intense light (e.g. a laser pointer) is shone into them. It's like the cells get so overwhelmed they roll around back to zero.

    The amorphous shapes at the very end are clearly from the lens being totally detached / moved out of position, allowing defocused light to hit the sensor. I didn't spot any interesting sensor or encoder death frames before the video ends, so likely the lava severed the ethernet cable or destroyed the electronics at that point.

shevy-java 11 hours ago

Pretty cool - that looks like two or three eruption holes.

Now someone timejump to krakatau, year 1883 ...

  • embedding-shape 11 hours ago

    If we're lucky, we (humanity) get to experience another supervolcano eruption sometime in the future, and then we'll finally get some good content out of it.

    • avalys 10 hours ago

      Personally I’m looking forward to a nearby supernova or giant meteor impact!

ak681443 6 hours ago

A new entei has been born?

mlindner 3 hours ago

Just FYI, but the voice for this channel is AI generated.

  • unethical_ban 3 hours ago

    The toughest thing to realize is that it is not obvious. Other posters here say it's a human, which was my assumption. But I wouldn't bet my savings either way anymore.

nickpsecurity 11 hours ago

The threat level for airplanes is set to orange... for anyone dumb enough to fly over an erupting volcano. The orange flying from the ground would be all the motivation I need to stay clear of it.

It was an awesome video, though.

  • jcranmer 7 hours ago

    An erupting volcano can spew ash over a large distance. When Eya.... that Icelandic volcano (that's hard to spell because I don't know Icelandic) erupted several years ago, the ash cloud traveled far enough to disrupt travel over most of Europe for a few days.

  • mschuster91 10 hours ago

    > The threat level for airplanes is set to orange... for anyone dumb enough to fly over an erupting volcano.

    Even 180km away from the eruption, airplanes can be seriously damaged [1].

    Jet engines really, really do not like to ingest anything else than air and, maybe, a tad bit of water.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_009

    • avalys 10 hours ago

      Volcanic ash is particularly bad because it is so abrasive, having been freshly formed without any opportunity for erosion to smooth it down like regular dust.

      • duskwuff 7 hours ago

        That's not the only problem - volcanic ash also has a low enough melting point that it'll melt in the combustion chamber of a jet engine and leave glassy deposits on cooler components.

    • euroderf 6 hours ago

      Prevailing winds are key. Reykjavíkings told me that during that big eruption many moons ago, all traffic to Europe was ended but traffic to North American continued merrily along.