> Nikita Bier, X’s head of product, accused the EU executive of trying to amplify its own social media post about the fine on X by trying “to take advantage of an exploit in our Ad Composer.”
For those that haven’t followed Nikita Bier (head of X product) on Twitter, he’s a childish and immature person. The way he talks about changes at X is completely unprofessional. So this type of deceptive revenge action is completely in character. I guess Elon hired him for that reason.
Tit-for-tat, justifiable maybe in terms of a simple understanding of game theory, but not justifiable in terms of looking like you're cooperating with authorities.
Another red flag that Musk considers himself a ruler, and not merely a leader, which is after all, just a citizen.
that much worse than “hope&change”
or senile grandpa or gw or fucking bill…???! it is like america woke up one morning and was like “wow, trump is bad…” :)
The point is that there is nothing magical or inherently virtuous about democracy. It's always been the best of a bad lot of alternatives, but that was before social media made it possible for bad-faith actors to exploit it so effectively.
Giving stupid people the same political power as everyone else has always been a bad idea, and now it amounts to a suicide pact.
No, I do. Me voting for someone who votes for someone who writes a law is not democratic. I’m far too removed from the process. Maybe it’s you who doesn’t know what democracy is; consider that.
The EU, like almost every democracy ever, is a "representative democracy":
> Representative democracy is a system where citizens vote for officials (representatives) to make laws and political decisions on their behalf, rather than voting on every issue directly, making governance of large populations more efficient while holding elected leaders accountable through regular elections. It's also called an indirect democracy and is the most common form of democracy, seen in the UK (MPs) or India (Members of Parliament).
Direct democracy has historically been completely impracticable. And even with modern comms, I still don't see a way of doing it in practice, personally. The direct democracy of ancient Greece was notoriously corrupt.
There were a ton of votes cast to stop kids from being vaccinated against childhood diseases, to block funding to the rural hospitals serving those communities, raise taxes via tariffs, and to let government accounts troll with memes. Those communities decided those were all worth it if brown and black people suffered.
This "poor" farmer claims to be sad about it in front of his flags of support of the administration. He refuses to understand what he actually voted for. But he is an adult that absolutely voted for it https://dataviz.whro.org/virginia-farmer-on-edge/index.html
As a US citizen, I disagree. Lots of votes cast November 2024, resulting in both a popular vote and Electoral College victory for Trump. He had a term before, he was impeached twice, and indicted several times. We voted for it several different times and ways.
> Nikita Bier, X’s head of product, accused the EU executive of trying to amplify its own social media post about the fine on X by trying “to take advantage of an exploit in our Ad Composer.”
For those that haven’t followed Nikita Bier (head of X product) on Twitter, he’s a childish and immature person. The way he talks about changes at X is completely unprofessional. So this type of deceptive revenge action is completely in character. I guess Elon hired him for that reason.
wdym by unprofessional in this instance?
For example, relating to the broken account location feature:
https://x.com/nikitabier/status/1991723005454741995
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For those who missed it:
> ... since October 2023, the Commission has suspended all paid advertising or services on X.
[dupe] Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46181306
Tit-for-tat, justifiable maybe in terms of a simple understanding of game theory, but not justifiable in terms of looking like you're cooperating with authorities.
Another red flag that Musk considers himself a ruler, and not merely a leader, which is after all, just a citizen.
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As a EU citizen: My only complaint is that the fines are not large enough, and enforcement often takes too long.
The law definitely was voted for. Enforcing the law obviously doesn't require additional voting.
It was? I'm a citizen of the EU and I don't remember the DSA referendum. Maybe I was out that day.
We the europeans voted a group of MEPs, who voted to approve such regulation. Or do you also vote every single law your country passes?
> We the europeans voted a group of MEPs, who voted to approve such regulation
I voted another MEP.
That's how democracy works, a majority of people voted those MPs. Still doesn't make the entire process illegitimate.
No, but I don’t pretend the process is democratic.
Thats fair enough if you don't know what democracy is.
Democracy gets you a Donald Trump. Twice. How much democracy can you take?
that much worse than “hope&change” or senile grandpa or gw or fucking bill…???! it is like america woke up one morning and was like “wow, trump is bad…” :)
With senile grandpa you are referring to trump falling asleep in meetings or not remembering which deals he signed?
Could be Reagan as well.
all of them
Not sure what your point is.
The point is that there is nothing magical or inherently virtuous about democracy. It's always been the best of a bad lot of alternatives, but that was before social media made it possible for bad-faith actors to exploit it so effectively.
Giving stupid people the same political power as everyone else has always been a bad idea, and now it amounts to a suicide pact.
I didn't say there was.
The ggpp just didn't know what democracy was.
No, I do. Me voting for someone who votes for someone who writes a law is not democratic. I’m far too removed from the process. Maybe it’s you who doesn’t know what democracy is; consider that.
The EU, like almost every democracy ever, is a "representative democracy":
> Representative democracy is a system where citizens vote for officials (representatives) to make laws and political decisions on their behalf, rather than voting on every issue directly, making governance of large populations more efficient while holding elected leaders accountable through regular elections. It's also called an indirect democracy and is the most common form of democracy, seen in the UK (MPs) or India (Members of Parliament).
Direct democracy has historically been completely impracticable. And even with modern comms, I still don't see a way of doing it in practice, personally. The direct democracy of ancient Greece was notoriously corrupt.
> Representative democracy is a system where citizens vote for officials (representatives) to make laws and political decisions on their behalf,
Except the officials vote on behalf of the lobbysts, not on behalf of the citizens.
It sure wasn't the big tech lobbyists cause they're not too happy about this.
The voting chain between a typical EU citizens vote at the ballot box and the wording of this legislation is super long.
And anyway, I don't believe X is accused of breaking any specific written EU law - at least nobody seems to be sharing which specific law.
They're in breach of the DSA. Here's the Commission's press release: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_...
I'm curious about your thought process here. What makes you so distrustful of the EU that you assumed this was a fine without a legal justification?
Yeah I mean that's kind of the point of representative democracy, you want us to go and vote for every single law? That would be a full time activity
Nobody in the USA has voted for the ongoing idiocracy, and yet here we are. The same idiots are telling the EU howto ruin their countries.
There were a ton of votes cast to stop kids from being vaccinated against childhood diseases, to block funding to the rural hospitals serving those communities, raise taxes via tariffs, and to let government accounts troll with memes. Those communities decided those were all worth it if brown and black people suffered.
This "poor" farmer claims to be sad about it in front of his flags of support of the administration. He refuses to understand what he actually voted for. But he is an adult that absolutely voted for it https://dataviz.whro.org/virginia-farmer-on-edge/index.html
As a US citizen, I disagree. Lots of votes cast November 2024, resulting in both a popular vote and Electoral College victory for Trump. He had a term before, he was impeached twice, and indicted several times. We voted for it several different times and ways.
I did.
I surely did vote for this kind of decision.
If X feel like leaving EU, great, I already left that extreme right wing propaganda long time ago.
I did. I wish the EU would finally show some teeth though and ban this Neonazi-owned disinformation platform though.