Show HN: OpenWork – An open-source alternative to Claude Cowork

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231 points by ben_talent 10 months ago

hi hn,

i built openwork, an open-source, local-first system inspired by claude cowork.

it’s a native desktop app that runs on top of opencode (opencode.ai). it’s basically an alternative gui for opencode, which (at least until now) has been more focused on technical folks.

the original seed for openwork was simple: i have a home server, and i wanted my wife and i to be able to run privileged workflows. things like controlling home assistant, or deploying custom web apps (e.g. our customs recipe app recipes.benjaminshafii.com), legal torrents, without living in a terminal.

our initial setup was running the opencode web server directly and sharing credentials to it. that worked, but i found the web ui unreliable and very unfriendly for non-technical users.

the goal with openwork is to bring the kind of workflows i’m used to running in the cli into a gui, while keeping a very deep extensibility mindset. ideally this grows into something closer to an obsidian-style ecosystem, but for agentic work.

some core principles i had in mind:

- open by design: no black boxes, no hosted lock-in. everything runs locally or on your own servers. (models don’t run locally yet, but both opencode and openwork are built with that future in mind.) - hyper extensible: skills are installable modules via a skill/package manager, using the native opencode plugin ecosystem. - non-technical by default: plans, progress, permissions, and artifacts are surfaced in the ui, not buried in logs.

you can already try it: - there’s an unsigned dmg - or you can clone the repo, install deps, and if you already have opencode running it should work right away

it’s very alpha, lots of rough edges. i’d love feedback on what feels the roughest or most confusing.

happy to answer questions.

browningstreet 9 months ago

Personally I’m skeptical and a bit dismissive of an insta- clone of commercial offerings. I ignore these things until they’re 3-6 months old and still iterating.

Announcements on their own are like whispers.

  • ben_talent 9 months ago

    Completely understand. It's up to us to keep shippinh and making this actually good during that time!

  • exitb 9 months ago

    What if the commercial offering was made in less than 2 weeks?

    https://x.com/altryne/status/2010811222409756707

    • bognition 9 months ago

      My take on the OP is that its commitment to an idea is what matters, not how quickly its created. I love seeing people insta-clone things but is this a side project that going to see updates for a few weeks or is this something that is going to be maintained actively for years to come.

    • browningstreet 9 months ago

      It's a feature built upon a foundation. Cloning the feature without the foundation isn't the same thing.

  • supriyo-biswas 9 months ago

    The uncomfortable truth is that the marginal cost of producing software (if one doesn't care too much about quality or predictability) has now become near zero with AI; and therefore we will see many companies products being challenged in this way. Of course, Anthropic will have a leg up in terms of subsidized models provided along with a subscription, etc.

    • rhubarbtree 9 months ago

      > the marginal cost of producing software (if one doesn't care too much about quality or predictability) has now become near zero with AI;

      Hell of a caveat. I'd also add "complex functionality" to that list.

  • troyvit 9 months ago

    That's a good idea from the user perspective. I jumped on the aider bandwagon and am now dealing with its relative abandonment and deciding if I want to invest time in a fork.

    As a movement though it might be something else. To me, Claude is trying to build a moat around tooling, but due to the nature of their own core product that moat is becoming easier and easier to bridge. What does that mean for them?

louis030195 9 months ago

Looks great. I don't use opencode myself but like a lot Claude skills, agents, I have like 50 different ones for personal life, work, dating, whatever Is there integration with Claude skills?

Have you considered using or integrating with ACP? https://zed.dev/acp

We use it in our desktop app IDE (mediar.ai) and it's pretty good

  • xyzsparetimexyz 9 months ago

    Dating??? Christ, this planet is cooked.

    • kevmo314 9 months ago

      Surely that is a joke… I hope…

      • dotancohen 9 months ago

        Early on I asked ChatGPT 4 what women actually want. I actually got some advice that was quite helpful.

        • contagiousflow 9 months ago

          Alternatively, think about asking the women in your life what they want

          • sofixa 9 months ago

            While this is generally good advice, it only works if you have women you're close with, at that level, already. If the only women you know are work colleagues, you can't go around asking them for advice on dating (depends on your relationship with them of course, but usually, not work appropriate).

            • contagiousflow 9 months ago

              Perhaps that is part of the problem. Talking to women outside of romantic interest might be a good first step

              • sofixa 9 months ago

                Yes, but that's not useful advice to someone who currently has none.

                • contagiousflow 9 months ago

                  My point being, maybe other things are foundational to building a romantic life upon. Not saying it is a must but building friendships with all sorts of people will generally help with many aspects of life

          • dotancohen 9 months ago

            Of course. I think that communication is the key to a successful relationship.

            However Henry Ford has a well known quote about what people think they want vs what they really want. For that matter, think about how you would answer a question about what you want, vs what you really value to experience in a relationship.

      • 8note 9 months ago

        id imagine a skill like "book a restaurant, and update my calendar"

        • verdverm 9 months ago

          I'm imagining an ADK swipe skill

    • louis030195 9 months ago

      i use dating skill to update my dating CRM (md notes) and my dating dashboard

      recently i have been working on a dating skill so AI book the right place based on each other personality using computer use

      • fcarraldo 9 months ago

        please disclose this to the people you’re dating

      • adastra22 9 months ago

        Please tell me this is a joke.

philipwhiuk 9 months ago

What's the security boundary here - there's no mention of a VM or anything to isolate the agent from the file system?

  • mhyatt000 9 months ago

    i think the point is to access the filesystem. move stuff around write rename etc.

jannesblobel 9 months ago

A current concern of mine, also when using Claude Cowork, is that I don’t want files to be modified if I can’t control their versions/ if they aren’t versioned at all.

And even though it doesn’t actually get full sudo access, giving an LLM permission to edit files without being able to track exactly what it’s doing still feels risky.

McAdam 9 months ago

Still feels a bit technical. The Claude approach is designed for "Susan in Accounting" - what thoughts do you have to reduce the technical barriers?

  • ben_talent 9 months ago

    Yeah it is still too technical.

    First obvious stuff like getting the dmg notarized having easier install.

    Then after it will be about optimizing onboarding. One of the core goals is to help Susan do 1 small task in under 5 min.

    To do that we will need to: - have some prepackaged configs for folks like starter template - ship opencode within the app itself so users don't need to manually install it - and get rid of the technical jargon that is cluttered in the app.

  • kewun 9 months ago

    I wonder if most "Susan in Accounting" even know what Claude is. They then have to know to get Claude desktop, get the max plan in order to get Cowork. Most people live on the cloud, so they'll need to get the Claude browser plugin as well to integrate with Cowork.

    I'm curious to see if Anthropic can actually win over these non-technical folks as there's still quite a few hurdles for them to get over.

yowlingcat 9 months ago

Great stuff and very timely. I just started getting into using opencode and while I'm hugely optimistic about its capabilities and can use it personally without too much sweat, I was left hoping for something a bit more batteries included to give to my non technical colleagues so we can collaborate together. This looks to be exactly what we were looking for so I am looking forward to giving it a spin!

  • ben_talent 9 months ago

    Yeah ! I feel like until we figure out the correct UX for non-technical people the right way would be a sort of hybrid. Where you'd set it up on a remote server (if you know opencode you know openwork) and you just then have non-tech people do a one time setup to connect to the remote and from then on you can easily extend capabilities.

    • yowlingcat 9 months ago

      This is the approach that I've taken with Open WebUI. It's a great piece of software for exposing a shared GPT interface but of course that's pretty primitive in the grand scheme of things compared to something like this. But I completely agree with what you're suggesting and I think it's the only practical way to get a multi disciplinary team collaborating with this kind of a tool.

herrkaefer 9 months ago

Came up with the same idea this morning and worked half day to get a working version. Then I saw this post.

Will like to contribute.

snow_mac 9 months ago

Created two days ago.... Did you use Claude Code to generate the open source code? :P

  • stingraycharles 9 months ago

    I believe Anthropic was saying that they created Claude Work using Claude Code as well, in about a week.

NamlchakKhandro 9 months ago

I don't understand the point when opencode desktop already exists.

rose8 9 months ago

sounds cool! I'm non technical, I get the workflow with controling home assistant. How could I use this at work? Like how could the workflow be between marketing and devs, for example, for website work, can I change content without dealing with GitHub?

NSPG911 9 months ago

how does it compare to opencode's own gui that uses tauri?

saadn92 9 months ago

Nice job! How were you able to get it out so quickly?

  • gvv 9 months ago

    "Claude build me a Claude Cowork clone, make no mistakes"

kevinoconnell 9 months ago

yo this is so sick, could def incorporate this into my workflow

  • ben_talent 9 months ago

    let me know if you need help, still a bit rough around the edges

torstenvl 9 months ago

This isn't open source.

  • ben_talent 9 months ago

    Oh damn thanks for flagging. I just added an MIT license.

    • gus_massa 9 months ago

      Beware that the readme.md still says "TBD" at the bottom.

      • ben_talent 9 months ago

        Fixed as well. Thanks again!

imiric 9 months ago

The word "open" in software names has completely lost its meaning.

  • ben_talent 9 months ago

    I used "open" because: - it's open source - built on top of open source (opencode) - it's built-around extensibility via plain-text files (skills) and open-source plugins

    • verdverm 9 months ago

      If everyone put "open" in their project's name because it was open source, almost all the software we use would have "open" in the name

      The open source / open plugins / text files is not unique to your project. The majority of the ai tooling space is open in the same way

  • dmd 9 months ago

    How much more open do you want it to be? It’s MIT licensed.