grantwest 8 hours ago

The real headline here is “Anyone can control Europe’s key satellites because they didn’t bother to put encryption on billions of dollars worth of critical infrastructure”

  • direwolf20 6 hours ago

    US satellites are the same

Havoc 5 hours ago

“Sensitive” satellites have unencrypted command channels?!?!

Even with narrow transmission angle that seems like a bold strategy

Encoding sensitive message is a thing since dark ages

  • lxgr 4 hours ago

    Yes, this is pretty standard, even in military contexts.

    For example, military aircraft ACARS communications are often entirely in plaintext, and don't forget the famous "Predator drone video feed intercepted via $26 software" incident: https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB126102247889095011

    However, that's only the data they forward, and this can be more or less trivially fixed at several layers, since many of these communication satellites are just "bent pipes" that often don't even digitally demodulate what they receive before frequency-shifting and rebroadcasting it.

    Authentication is a bit more challenging; interesting things can happen even when traffic itself is encrypted, such as Brazilean truckers using your expensive military communications satellite as a football chat room: https://www.wired.com/2009/04/fleetcom/

    Beyond payload encryption/authentication, satellite operational commands (e.g. engine and inertia wheel control, power management etc.) should have been encrypted for decades, though (and are one of the few explicitly carved out exemptions to otherwise strict "no encryption on amateur radio bands" regulations), so these claims about "software kill commands" seems very worrying.

    • arethuza 3 hours ago

      During the Falklands War some of the UK's European allies intercepted transmissions from Soviet spy satellites that allowed the location of the Argentinian fleet to be identified - this information was passed to the UK.

direwolf20 6 hours ago

That's clever. Normally you can't intercept satellite uplinks because they're pointed at the satellite. But if you have your own, highly manoeuvrable satellite...

NedF 4 hours ago

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lovegrenoble 7 hours ago

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  • krige 7 hours ago

    Extremely easy to convince population that state X is an evil, looming threat if state X is actually doing evil, looming, and threatening things for decades on no end.

    Russia could have stopped at any moment. Can still stop at any moment. They could have single-handedly undermined Europe's trust in the States, years before the orange-in-charge did, merely by not starting an invasion. Their choice. Their FA, now they FO.

    • lovegrenoble 5 hours ago

      >> if state X is actually doing evil, looming, and threatening things for decades on no end.

      This sounds like a description of the United States to me...

      • krige 4 hours ago

        Ah, the good ol "And you are lynching N-----s!" defense. Supremely topical for discussing Russia's dickery.

      • OKRainbowKid 5 hours ago

        Whataboutism and deflection, the favorite tool of Kremlin apologists.

    • justsomehnguy 38 minutes ago

      Everyone knows they are evil. Not that many states out there fly to other side of the planet to bomb someone irrelevant or outright kidnap president of the country they are not even have a boarder with.

phplovesong 6 hours ago

Russia is a terrorist state. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • toss1 2 hours ago

    TBF, Russia does have something more. It is a terrorist state with a gas station

    • citrin_ru an hour ago

      Venezuela has more oil than Russia and yet it's irrelevant because the US actually enforces sanctions against Venezuela.

  • goodmythical 2 hours ago

    So is [insert list of commonly recognized nations].

    What's your point?

  • lovegrenoble 5 hours ago

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    • polotics 5 hours ago

      Interesting. A Russian speaking Kharkov ex-resident i heard recently would like an interview with you, can you post your contact details?