Show HN: Klaw.sh – Kubernetes for AI agents

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54 points by eftalyurtseven a day ago

Hi everyone,

I run a generative AI infra company, unified API for 600+ models. Our team started deploying AI agents for our marketing and lead gen ops: content, engagement, analytics across multiple X accounts.

OpenClaw worked fine for single agents. But at ~14 agents across 6 accounts, the problem shifted from "how do I build agents" to "how do I manage them."

Deployment, monitoring, team isolation, figuring out which agent broke what at 3am. Classic orchestration problem.

So I built klaw, modeled on Kubernetes: Clusters — isolated environments per org/project Namespaces — team-level isolation (marketing, sales, support) Channels — connect agents to Slack, X, Discord Skills — reusable agent capabilities via a marketplace

CLI works like kubectl: klaw create cluster mycompany klaw create namespace marketing klaw deploy agent.yaml

I also rewrote from Node.js to Go — agents went from 800MB+ to under 10MB each.

Quick usage example: I run a "content cluster" where each X account is its own namespace. Agent misbehaving on one account can't affect others. Adding a new account is klaw create namespace [account] + deploy the same config. 30 seconds.

The key differentiator vs frameworks like CrewAI or LangGraph: those define how agents collaborate on tasks. klaw operates one layer above — managing fleets of agents across teams with isolation and operational tooling. You could run CrewAI agents inside klaw namespaces.

Happy to answer questions.

ed_mercer 15 hours ago

For us, we actually moved away from k8s to dedicated VMs on Proxmox for our agents. We initially had a containerized environment manager running in k8s, but found that VMs give you things containers struggle with: full desktop environments with X11 for GUI automation, persistent state across sessions and dedicated resources per agent. Each agent gets their own Debian VM with a complete OS, which makes it much easier to run tools like xdotool and browser automation that don't play well in containers.

  • eftalyurtseven 15 hours ago

    Makes sense, if your agents need full desktop and GUI automation VMs are the way to go. klaw is more on the headless side, agents talking to APIs, Slack, X, that kind of thing, so the lightweight binary model works. How many agents are you running on Proxmox?

    • ed_mercer 14 hours ago

      Ahh, that makes sense. Yeah you likely have a very different business model. We're more using them as "AI employees" that help us with tasks. Currently running 4 of these VMs but planning to add more. Note that each VM has a specific role: cluster monitoring, database stats, frontend/backend features (this is where VMs really shine) and a (very experimental) high-level manager.

  • mountainriver 14 hours ago

    I got this issue too, but still found that a containerized desktop was superior due to resource efficiency

  • NewJazz 14 hours ago

    I have never had an issue with browser automation like selenium in containers. Is that actually an issue?

    • ed_mercer 14 hours ago

      We found that it works great for scraping but it's not so great for development. git worktrees in a VM are much faster over spinning up new containers with an existing codebase.

simbleau 15 hours ago

I don’t quite get what makes it Kubernetes for AI agents. Is the idea to pool hardware together to distribute AI agents tasking? Is the idea to sandbox agents in a safe runtime with configuration management? Is the idea something else entirely? Both? I couldn’t figure it out by the README alone.

  • eftalyurtseven 15 hours ago

    Mostly the second, plus fleet management. Each agent runs in an isolated namespace with its own config, channels, and skills. You manage them declaratively like you would pods, but the unit of work is an AI agent instead of a container. The Kubernetes analogy is about the operational model: clusters for org isolation, namespaces for team isolation, declarative deploys, central monitoring. Not about hardware scheduling. I'll improve the README to make this clearer, good feedback.

    • fudged71 15 hours ago

      Is there any current solution elsewhere for hardware scheduling?

      • eftalyurtseven 15 hours ago

        Yes, klaw has a controller-node architecture. You join machines to a cluster with klaw node join and deploy agents to specific nodes.

        I added distributed agent management functionality

stubbi 11 hours ago

Very interesting! I’ll certainly try it out. I am wondering though what’s the advantage over doing it with a K8s operator (disclaimer, I created and maintain https://github.com/openclaw-rocks/k8s-operator)?

Also, I am genuinely curious about the choice of license.

Given the „new (agentic) way“ in that software is being developed now, don’t you think it can be copied easily and that this kind of license will hinder adoption at some point?

  • eftalyurtseven 11 hours ago

    Thanks! The main advantage is simplicity. klaw is a single binary with zero dependencies, no k8s cluster required. For teams already running Kubernetes your operator makes a lot of sense, but most teams we've talked to managing AI agents don't have or want a k8s setup just for that. klaw gives them the same mental model without the infrastructure overhead.

    On the license, fair question. The SaaS restriction is narrow, it only prevents someone from reselling klaw as a hosted orchestration service. Internal use, building on it, extending it is all fine. We looked at what Elastic and HashiCorp did and felt this was the right balance for now. Could it slow adoption? Maybe. But we'd rather start here and open up further based on how the community evolves.

    • stubbi 11 hours ago

      Fair enough!

f0e4c2f7 15 hours ago

Ha! This is great. I've been waiting for someone to make this.

Giving an LLM a computer makes it way more powerful, giving it a kubernetes cluster should extend that power much further and naturally fits well with the way LLMs work.

I think this abstraction can scale for a good long while. Past this what do you give the agent? Control of a whole Data Center I guess.

I'm not sure if it will replace openclaw all together since kubernetes is kind of niche and scary to a lot of people. But I bet for the most sophisticated builders this will become quite popular, and who knows maybe far beyond that cohort too.

Congrats on the launch!

  • eftalyurtseven 15 hours ago

    Thanks! The "Kubernetes is scary" point is fair, that's why the CLI is designed to feel intuitive even if you've never touched kubectl. There's also a controller agent that manages the whole cluster from plain English.

    On "what comes after", I think it's agents managing other agents. An AI SRE that watches load and spins up new agents automatically. The cluster/namespace model was designed with that direction in mind.

    And yeah, not trying to replace OpenClaw, different layer.

    OpenClaw defines what an agent does, klaw manages where and how many run. Complementary.

CGamesPlay 14 hours ago

This looks like what I want. A few questions: is it possible to have a “mayor” type role that has the ability to start other agents, but at the same time be unable to access those secrets or infiltrate prompt data? The key piece I don’t see is the agent needs a tool for klaw itself, and then I have to be able to configure that appropriately.

Is there a unified human approval flow, or any kind of UI bundled with this? Maybe I missed this part.

  • eftalyurtseven 14 hours ago

    Right now the controller can see secrets across namespaces, so that level of isolation isn’t there yet. It’s on the roadmap though. Namespace-scoped secrets where a controller agent can spawn agents but can’t read their secrets is the right model. No human approval flow yet either, agents create directly. Would you want something like klaw dispatch --approve that queues until a human confirms?

    • CGamesPlay 13 hours ago

      My instinct is that it should be built in to tool calls. So if there was a "klaw dispatch tool", it would have the same approval flow as the "publish draft" tool, which is to say some easy way for a human to review and approve (or provide feedback).

      • eftalyurtseven 12 hours ago

        got your feedback, it can run cli commands but for tool calling / skill should be built in, will add that!

umairnadeem123 13 hours ago

helpful framing: this feels less like k8s itself and more like "fleet ops for agents". k8s solved deploy/observe/isolate for containers, youre mapping that control plane idea to agent workers.

would be great to add one concrete diagram in the readme (controller, namespace, agent runtime, secret boundary). i think that would remove most confusion in this thread quickly.

dariusj18 15 hours ago

In first read I thought this was an operator for k8s, but it is just comparing itself.to k8s as an orchestration system.

  • eftalyurtseven 15 hours ago

    Correct, it's not a k8s operator. Standalone binary, zero dependencies. Just uses the same mental model because clusters and namespaces map really well to multi-team agent management.

    • verdverm 13 hours ago

      There are a number of other aspects that make kubernetes what it is. In particular the API surface is well defined at a very good abstraction level.

      For Ai, I'm using ADK. It's my "kubernetes for agents" from this perspective of abstractions and common task management handled by the system.

      https://google.github.io/adk-docs/get-started/about/

otterley 13 hours ago

I know K8S and other software orchestration systems well, but I admit I don't understand this at all. Can someone ELI5?

some_infra_dude 12 hours ago

fake git repository, no actual code, just an opaque binary. No way to know what these guys are doing with your prompts or code.

  • eftalyurtseven 12 hours ago

    the binary is built from the repo, it's Go so we distribute compiled binaries like most Go CLI tools (kubectl, terraform, hugo). All agent communication goes through your own configured LLM provider, klaw doesn't proxy or store any prompts.

    • some_infra_dude 11 hours ago

      Looks like what your shipping is not what's in the repo...

      ``` klaw.sh git:(main) make go build -ldflags "-s -w -X main.version=v0.1.0-7-g02b1591" -o bin/klaw ./cmd/klaw stat /home/stobias/repos/personal/misc/klaw.sh/cmd/klaw: directory not found make: ** [Makefile:12: build] Error 1 ```

MrDarcy 15 hours ago

Is this intended to deploy onto k8s?

  • eftalyurtseven 15 hours ago

    No, klaw is standalone. It borrows the mental model from Kubernetes (clusters, namespaces, declarative config) but doesn't depend on it. Single binary, runs anywhere.

    • emmelaich 13 hours ago

      You should consider changing the subtitle then. Maybe "Kubernetes-like by AI" or "AI Kubernetes imitation" or ...?

      • TheTaytay 12 hours ago

        I would agree. I don’t use k8s and assumed I couldn’t use this as a result…

thehamkercat 11 hours ago

let's call it clawshnikov next time

hackyhacky 13 hours ago

Welcome to the future. We deploy infrastructure for managing bots that post on Twitter to get other bots to convince their people to buy our infrastructure. Our marketing is for the bots, by the bots.

canadiantim 14 hours ago

You should consider looking at oh-my-opencode for inspiration (similar to gas town) for how to best orchestrate agents from your controller central brain.

This looks great though, will definitely give it a try

  • eftalyurtseven 14 hours ago

    Thanks, will check it out! Let me know how it goes.

benatkin 15 hours ago

In case anyone is interested because "Kubernetes for agents" sounds innovative: https://medium.com/p/welcome-to-gas-town-4f25ee16dd04?source...

Also, Kubernetes and Gas Town are open source, but this is not.

Edit: the Medium link doesn't jump down to the highlighted phrase. It's "'It will be like kubernetes, but for agents,' I said."

  • eftalyurtseven 15 hours ago

    It is open source: https://github.com/klawsh/klaw.sh

    Also worth noting, Gas Town and klaw solve different problems. Gas Town orchestrates coding agents on a codebase. klaw orchestrates operational agents (social media, support, sales) across teams and platforms. Different layer entirely.

    • trashburger 14 hours ago

      It is under a license that prevents using the source in any way you choose:

          You may not use the klaw source code to operate a multi-tenant managed
          service (Software as a Service) where the primary value proposition is
          providing AI agent orchestration capabilities to third parties, unless
          you have obtained explicit written authorization from each::labs.
      
      It's source-available, which is cool, but don't muddy the waters.
    • benatkin 15 hours ago

      Neither in letter (OSI) nor in spirit...