What a dick move. Making that prompt open source will probably mean that every other model that doesn't want to cheat will scrape that and accidentally cheat in the next models.
Um, yes this is a extremely specific as a benchmark harness. It has a ton of knowledge encoded about the tasks at hand. The tweet is dishonest even in the best light.
The hard part of these tests isn't purely reasoning ability ffs.
> We seek to fight two forms of overfitting that would muddy public sensefinding:
> Task-specific overfitting. This includes any agent that is created with knowledge of public ARC-AGI-3 environments, subsequently being evaluated on the same environments. It could be either directly trained on these environments, or using a harness that is handcrafted or specifically configured by someone with knowledge of the public environments.
I think generally people regard a harness as the system instructions + tools made available to the LLM (and probably the thing that runs the LLM conversation in a loop.) An agent is collectively, the LLM plus the harness.
The point of this test is to check if an AI system can figure out the game. This isn't what happened here. A human figured out the game, wrote in their prompts exactly how the game works and THEN put the AI on the problem. This is 100% cheating and imo quite stupid.
I for one think that harness development is perhaps the most interesting part at the moment and would love to have an alternative leaderboard with harnesses.
I'm so into harness development right now. Once it clicked that harnesses can bring more safety and determinism to LLMs, I started to wonder where I'd need that and why (vs MCP or just throwing Claude Code at everything), and my brain gears have been turning endlessly since then. I'd love to see more of what people do with them. My use cases are admittedly lame and boring, but it's such a fun paradigm to think and develop around.
I went through the technical paper again, and while they explain why they decided against the harness, I disagree with them - my take is that if harnesses are overfitting, then they should be penalized on the hidden test set.
Anyway, searching both in ARC-AGI's paper and website and directly on kaggle, I failed to find a with-harness leaderboard; can you please give the link?
On the public set of 25 problems. These are intended for development and testing, not evaluation. There are 110 private problems for actual evaluation purposes, and the ARC-AGI-3 paper says "the public set is materially easier than the private set".
Benchmarks on public tests are too easy to game. The model owners can just incorporate the answers in to the dataset. Only the private problems actually matter.
I agree it's not cheating that restricted sense. But I'm not really convinced that it can't be cheating in a more general sense. You can try like 10^10 variations of harnesses and select the one that performs best. And probably if you then look at it, it will not look like it's necessarily cheating. But you have biased the estimator by selecting the harness according to the value.
Once the model has seen the questions and answers in the training stage, the questions are worthless. Only a test using previously unseen questions has merit.
All traffic is monitored, all signal sources are eventually incorporated into the training set in one way or another. The person you're responding to is correct, even a single API call to any AI provider is sufficient to discount future results from the same provider.
You live in a conspiracy world. Those AI providers don't update the models that fast. You can try ask them solve ARC-AGI-3 without harness and see them struggle as yesterday yourself.
ok! So if someone uses an existing, checkpointed, open source model then the answer is yes the results are valid and it doesn't matter that the tests are public.
The harness seems extremely benchmark specific that gives them a huge advantage over what most models can use. This isn't a qualifying score for that reason.
we constantly underestimate the power of inference scaffolding. I have seen it in all domains: coding, ASR, ARC-AGI benchmarks you name it. Scaffolding can do a lot! And post-training too. I am confident our currently pre-trained models can beat this benchmark over 80% with the right post-training and scaffolding. That being said I don't think ARC-AGI proves much. It is not a useful task at all in the wild. it is just a game; a strange and confusing one. For me this is just a pointless pseudo-academic exercise. Good to have, but by no means measures intelligence and even less utility of a model.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart's_law
> Any observed statistical regularity will tend to collapse once pressure is placed upon it for control purposes.
[dead]
Note that this uses a harness so it doesn't qualify for the official ARC-AGI-3 leaderboard
According to the authors the harness isn't ARC-AGI specific though https://x.com/agenticasdk/status/2037335806264971461
It is 100% ARC-AGI-3 specific though, just read through the prompts https://github.com/symbolica-ai/ARC-AGI-3-Agents/blob/symbol...
this is so disingenuous on symbolica's part. these insincere announcements just make it harder for genuine attempts and novel ideas
What a dick move. Making that prompt open source will probably mean that every other model that doesn't want to cheat will scrape that and accidentally cheat in the next models.
Um, yes this is a extremely specific as a benchmark harness. It has a ton of knowledge encoded about the tasks at hand. The tweet is dishonest even in the best light.
The hard part of these tests isn't purely reasoning ability ffs.
We're calling agents harnesses now?
ELI5 what is a harness?
EDIT from https://arcprize.org/media/ARC_AGI_3_Technical_Report.pdf:
> We seek to fight two forms of overfitting that would muddy public sensefinding:
> Task-specific overfitting. This includes any agent that is created with knowledge of public ARC-AGI-3 environments, subsequently being evaluated on the same environments. It could be either directly trained on these environments, or using a harness that is handcrafted or specifically configured by someone with knowledge of the public environments.
I think generally people regard a harness as the system instructions + tools made available to the LLM (and probably the thing that runs the LLM conversation in a loop.) An agent is collectively, the LLM plus the harness.
The point of this test is to check if an AI system can figure out the game. This isn't what happened here. A human figured out the game, wrote in their prompts exactly how the game works and THEN put the AI on the problem. This is 100% cheating and imo quite stupid.
Doesn't the chat version of chatgpt or gemini also have interleaved tool calls, so do those also count as with harnesses?
Harness is fine. I think people here are arguing what provided here to take the test is not harness.
> this uses a harness
This seems like an arbitrary restriction. Tool-use requires a harness, and their whitepaper never defines exactly what counts as valid.
Right, fair, but look at the prompt. For the purpose of testing general intelligence, this seems kind of pointless.
It isn't arbitrary. They want measure the capability of the general LLM
I for one think that harness development is perhaps the most interesting part at the moment and would love to have an alternative leaderboard with harnesses.
I'm so into harness development right now. Once it clicked that harnesses can bring more safety and determinism to LLMs, I started to wonder where I'd need that and why (vs MCP or just throwing Claude Code at everything), and my brain gears have been turning endlessly since then. I'd love to see more of what people do with them. My use cases are admittedly lame and boring, but it's such a fun paradigm to think and develop around.
Could you point me to some resources to learn about harnesses? I’d love to hear an example of a use case you’re thinking of.
There is. Official leaderboard is without harness, and community leaderboard is with harness. Read ARC-AGI-3 Technical Paper for details.
I went through the technical paper again, and while they explain why they decided against the harness, I disagree with them - my take is that if harnesses are overfitting, then they should be penalized on the hidden test set.
Anyway, searching both in ARC-AGI's paper and website and directly on kaggle, I failed to find a with-harness leaderboard; can you please give the link?
Here it is: https://arcprize.org/leaderboard/community
On the public set of 25 problems. These are intended for development and testing, not evaluation. There are 110 private problems for actual evaluation purposes, and the ARC-AGI-3 paper says "the public set is materially easier than the private set".
Benchmarks on public tests are too easy to game. The model owners can just incorporate the answers in to the dataset. Only the private problems actually matter.
In this case the code is public and you can see they are not cheating in that sense.
I agree it's not cheating that restricted sense. But I'm not really convinced that it can't be cheating in a more general sense. You can try like 10^10 variations of harnesses and select the one that performs best. And probably if you then look at it, it will not look like it's necessarily cheating. But you have biased the estimator by selecting the harness according to the value.
Once the model has seen the questions and answers in the training stage, the questions are worthless. Only a test using previously unseen questions has merit.
They aren't training new models for this. This is an agent harness for Opus 4.6.
All traffic is monitored, all signal sources are eventually incorporated into the training set in one way or another. The person you're responding to is correct, even a single API call to any AI provider is sufficient to discount future results from the same provider.
You live in a conspiracy world. Those AI providers don't update the models that fast. You can try ask them solve ARC-AGI-3 without harness and see them struggle as yesterday yourself.
Which part is the conspiracy? Be as concrete as possible.
ok! So if someone uses an existing, checkpointed, open source model then the answer is yes the results are valid and it doesn't matter that the tests are public.
Yes, assuming the checkpoint was before the announcement & public availability of the test set.
The harness seems extremely benchmark specific that gives them a huge advantage over what most models can use. This isn't a qualifying score for that reason.
Here is the ARC-AGI-3 specific harness by the way - lots of challenge information encoded inside: https://github.com/symbolica-ai/ARC-AGI-3-Agents/blob/symbol...
we constantly underestimate the power of inference scaffolding. I have seen it in all domains: coding, ASR, ARC-AGI benchmarks you name it. Scaffolding can do a lot! And post-training too. I am confident our currently pre-trained models can beat this benchmark over 80% with the right post-training and scaffolding. That being said I don't think ARC-AGI proves much. It is not a useful task at all in the wild. it is just a game; a strange and confusing one. For me this is just a pointless pseudo-academic exercise. Good to have, but by no means measures intelligence and even less utility of a model.
Anybody used this Agentica of theirs?
[dead]