Supermarket breads are trash, the first thing I found in wallmart's website:
> Unbleached Enriched Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Contains 2% or Less of Each of the Following: Yeast, Wheat Gluten, Salt, Soybean Oil, Dough Conditioners (Contains One or More of the Following: Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Calcium Stearoyl Lactylate, Monoglycerides, Mono- and Diglycerides, Distilled Monoglycerides, Calcium Peroxide, Calcium Iodate, DATEM, Ethoxylated Mono- and Diglycerides, Enzymes, Ascorbic Acid), Monocalcium Phosphate, Soy Lecithin, Calcium Propionate (to Retard Spoilage).
A good rule of thumb is that if your grandpa would have needed a PhD in chemistry to identify 80% of the ingredients it probably is ultra processed.
The same type of bread in France:
> Wheat flour 63%, water, sugar, rapeseed oil, salt, vinegar, yeast, broad bean flour, WHEAT gluten, flavouring (contains alcohol), acerola extract.
https://preview.redd.it/yodjulpnhclf1.jpeg?width=1240&format...
this is the chemical composition of a strawberry
my phd-less grandfather will have to now avoid his favourite dessert :(
> ackchyually everything is made of things, checkmate
ok, well continue eating dog shit products designed by megacorps for the sole purpose of profit maximisation then, what do you want me to tell you? We've been eating veggies and fruits for hundred millions of years without any problem but 4 decades of processed food skyrocketed all of our lifestyle related health issues.
>We've been eating veggies and fruits for hundred millions of years without any problem
That's impressive considering humans have existed for about 300,000 years. Also famine and starvation was a fact of life for much of the population until recently, but I guess that's not a real problem.
> That's impressive considering humans have existed for about 300,000 years.
Right, I guess before that we simply did not evolve from anything at all, we just popped into existence a monday afternoon 300k years ago. I can't believe how dense this forum became, the energy spent in bad faith arguing that ultra processed food actually is good for us, are you paid for it at least ?
Whatever people were eating even 200 years ago have literally nothing to do with fruits and veggies we have now after selection and artificial evolution usually via radioactive exposure because GM is baaad.
Also people wasn't all that much healthier and neither they lived so long.
Chemical composition have nothing to do with it. Too much of sugar or salt or some other things is the problem though.
But you can as well get the same health problems from eating too much fruits. E.g grapes and mangoes have more sugar than coca cola.
> Whatever people were eating even 200 years ago have literally nothing to do with fruits and veggies we have now after selection and artificial evolution usually via radioactive exposure because GM is baaad.
You sure about that?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10969708/
> In the last sixty years, there has been an alarming decline in food quality and a decrease in a wide variety of nutritionally essential minerals and nutraceutical compounds in imperative fruits, vegetables, and food crops.
> Chemical composition have nothing to do with it. Too much of sugar or salt or some other things is the problem though.
No shit sherlock, the very exact things ultra processed food are riddled with, I'm truly shocked
This thread is full of people listing all the arguments against ultra processed food while failing to connect the dots to the conclusion, it's very perplexing
> what do you want me to tell you?
That you will try and educate yourself in the nuances of a complicated topic like nutrition and wont advocate for anti intellectual and anti scientific shorthand doomerism that makes people less educated and capable of distinguishing healthy habits?
> We've been eating veggies and fruits for hundred millions of years without any problem but 4 decades of processed food skyrocketed all of our lifestyle related health issues.
None of this is true. We have been dying of starvation, food borne illnesses and nutricional deficits for millenia, industrilisation and post war economies have replaced that with hyper caloric ultra processed food that hand in hand with more sedentary lifestyles have skyrocketed a limited amount of health issues like cardiovascular problems.
We dont die of iodine deficiencies because we added it to salt, we dont die of scurvy because citric acid is common and citrus fruits plentiful, varied diets and better agriculture means locusts, bad weather, insects and specific harvest destroying pathogens happen less often and dont kill all our crops.
Btw in our modern world places like italy, the basque country, japan still have incredibly healthy populations. They mostly eat veggies, fish, fatty oils and walk alot. Their portions are also smaller than in places like america. And its not like ultra processed food doesnt exist there, or that they dont use chemicals in their food production.
Btw, related video that I always send when someone worrying about chemical composition of foods.
NileRed - Turning paint thinner into cherry soda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIVkBs7oWDI