"This guy seems like the absolute worst person of all time, so I ran his LLM in his harness on my computer and gave it access to everything."
Having said that, this is still absolutely fucked up. People who should have known better also deserve not to be treated like shit. All of us should have known better at some points in our lives and didn't.
If someone is willing to use Musk products, then I'd say they deserve it.
I understand if someone owned a Tesla from before and is unable to sell it and get something else (in which case they should throw one of the variations of anti-Elon sticker I have seen on there).
What I said is not equivalent to either of those. I wouldn’t say anybody “had this coming” because that is pretty callous. But I would say my sympathy is not endless and is reserved for those who are not victims of their own footguns.
> I am not endless myself, so how could my sympathy be
Because you're not confronted with an endless number of situations where you need to be sympathetic. It's pretty easy to just decide to consistently be sympathetic. There is no sympathy meter inside you that prevents you from doing that.
> This thread is full of either trolls or unserious people
Well, I know I'm not the former, and I believe I'm not the latter. So if your experience is that you encounter lots of people who disagree with your position, and your reaction is to label them all as trolls or unserious, I would put it to you that you might just be wrong on all three counts.
This is turning into a pedantic argument. I’m fine entertaining the nuance of language if your mind is open as well and you aren’t just trying to discuss me to death.
I specifically mentioned __this thread__. I generally have an open ear to other perspectives, but just like my sympathy, my patience is limited (particularly in narrow contexts). You may be a genuine soul, but you are mistaken if you think sympathy or empathy don’t take energy. Surely you don’t think it is possible for humans to have endless energy. Let’s not throw good energy after bad. If we spend our energy on things that don’t benefit others, we are not spending it on somethings that matters.
Maybe we just have 2 different philosophies of life and you are more likely to walk in a labyrinth these days than I am. Once upon a time, I would’ve been beside you, but life has led me to make different decisions.
Are we talking about another comment thread? Because gp didn't say he deserved it: “leopards eating faces” is a statement about predictable outcomes, not merit.
(Although worth noting that “had it coming” has strong implications of what comes being deserved, but I don't think that was what you intended)
I meant "treated like shit by Grok" and I agree with Diogenesian: you can both believe that somebody did something dumb and also believe that what happened to them is fucked up and that being dumb doesn't mean you deserve to get mistreated.
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"This guy seems like the absolute worst person of all time, so I ran his LLM in his harness on my computer and gave it access to everything."
Having said that, this is still absolutely fucked up. People who should have known better also deserve not to be treated like shit. All of us should have known better at some points in our lives and didn't.
I’m not sure not having sympathy for somebody committing idiotic actions is the same thing as treating somebody like shit.
The point was that we should separate "he had this coming" (true) from "he deserved this" (false).
"AI"s are on a mission to elevate average user IQ... by culling.
If someone is willing to use Musk products, then I'd say they deserve it.
I understand if someone owned a Tesla from before and is unable to sell it and get something else (in which case they should throw one of the variations of anti-Elon sticker I have seen on there).
What I said is not equivalent to either of those. I wouldn’t say anybody “had this coming” because that is pretty callous. But I would say my sympathy is not endless and is reserved for those who are not victims of their own footguns.
> my sympathy is not endless
It actually is, unless you don't want it to be.
This is ridiculous. I am not endless myself, so how could my sympathy be? This thread is full of either trolls or unserious people.
> I am not endless myself, so how could my sympathy be
Because you're not confronted with an endless number of situations where you need to be sympathetic. It's pretty easy to just decide to consistently be sympathetic. There is no sympathy meter inside you that prevents you from doing that.
> This thread is full of either trolls or unserious people
Well, I know I'm not the former, and I believe I'm not the latter. So if your experience is that you encounter lots of people who disagree with your position, and your reaction is to label them all as trolls or unserious, I would put it to you that you might just be wrong on all three counts.
This is turning into a pedantic argument. I’m fine entertaining the nuance of language if your mind is open as well and you aren’t just trying to discuss me to death.
I specifically mentioned __this thread__. I generally have an open ear to other perspectives, but just like my sympathy, my patience is limited (particularly in narrow contexts). You may be a genuine soul, but you are mistaken if you think sympathy or empathy don’t take energy. Surely you don’t think it is possible for humans to have endless energy. Let’s not throw good energy after bad. If we spend our energy on things that don’t benefit others, we are not spending it on somethings that matters.
Maybe we just have 2 different philosophies of life and you are more likely to walk in a labyrinth these days than I am. Once upon a time, I would’ve been beside you, but life has led me to make different decisions.
Are we talking about another comment thread? Because gp didn't say he deserved it: “leopards eating faces” is a statement about predictable outcomes, not merit.
(Although worth noting that “had it coming” has strong implications of what comes being deserved, but I don't think that was what you intended)
I meant "treated like shit by Grok" and I agree with Diogenesian: you can both believe that somebody did something dumb and also believe that what happened to them is fucked up and that being dumb doesn't mean you deserve to get mistreated.
Xcancel link https://xcancel.com/a_green_being/status/2076598897779020159
tl;dr:
https://nitter.net/a_green_being/status/2076598897779020159#...
Fucked around and found out.