NBJack 1 day ago

If I had a nickel for every model card, repo, or spec posted here that had zero samples of the actual output, I could probably start financing a rack of MI455Xs.

  • giancarlostoro 1 day ago

    OpenAI does surprisingly well in this regard with their blog posts, and I'm more of an Anthropic fanboy. I wish most tech releases for AI were as well done as OpenAIs they actually showcase what they've built, honestly, if I had to compare it to another company, I wouldn't be surprised if former Apple employees are doing OpenAI's press briefings. Whoever does press briefings at Apple, they are worth their weight in gold.

    • sigmoid10 1 day ago

      The last chief communications officer of OpenAI used to work at Apple for 7 years according to her linkedin.

      • giancarlostoro 1 day ago

        As I was writing this it dawned on me, and I had a feeling someone would confirm. :)

        I am not a Sam Altman fan, but I do give him credit where its due, their press briefings are chef's kiss.

  • amelius 1 day ago

    I prefer no samples over cherry picked samples, though.

    • JacobAsmuth 1 day ago

      Really? You prefer not to see the top end of the distribution? Why?

      • amelius 1 day ago

        Because I don't like baby sitting an AI. Just tell me what it is capable of; not what it is capable of when I invest a lot of work into it myself. The whole point of an AI is that it does the work for me.

  • cubefox 1 day ago

    If you register you can try it for free.

jjcm 1 day ago

I was playing with this a bunch when it dropped a week ago. It's a big step up over their prior model, but it's nowhere near gpt-image-2 at least for high density UI design. Photos are a solved domain in my eyes, so the real question is if it can do infographics/web design.

Here are some samples, each with the same prompt:

Cannabis site

gpt-image-2: https://image.non.io/9fbf3396-889a-445e-b51b-ab4468ded269.we...

qwen-3: https://image.non.io/b5061e30-fafa-496f-9dad-2071e9473998.we...

Bookstore site

gpt-image-2: https://image.non.io/7157afee-914e-4433-9d5e-e3d0c8d8b3a3.we...

qwen-3: https://image.non.io/9556857b-e6f3-4754-8958-74b2265d946f.we...

While it does text fairly well, the overall layout/aesthetics are simply behind.

  • theturtletalks 1 day ago

    The bookstore design is really nice. Did you use diffui.ai?

    Also, mind if I take it for my open-source bookstore SaaS?

    • jjcm 1 day ago

      Yea, the prompt was the expanded json the diffui harness uses. And re grabbing the designs, go for it.

      I expaneded out the designs here - feel free to copy them for your agent to build: https://diffui.ai/app/canvas/95934269-5dc8-4145-a33a-d3a4dc2...

      I'd recommend adding something like this to the copied prompt:

      "Focus heavily on the angular cuts. Use image-to-svg to generate the hero graphics and also generate images of the hero graphics - let me choose between the two of them."

      That should help steer the agent a bit and will give you some optionality for the hero graphics.

      • theturtletalks 12 hours ago

        Thanks for expanding the designs for it, they look great! I need nice storefronts for my open-source SaaS but 5.6 Sol has been making them look really generic. I tried Google Stitch but it was much of the same. I really like diffui, but is there a way for me to use in Codex directly?

sinak 1 day ago

Looks like this model is meaningfully less good than gpt-image-2. Arena.ai score is 1263 vs 1380.

https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text-to-image

  • minimaxir 1 day ago

    Everything is less good than gpt-2-image and I suspect that will be the case for awhile, until potentially Nano Banana Pro 2.

    However, cost is significantly lower in this case. A Pro image here is $0.04, a gpt-2-image high is $0.21 and lower resolution.

    • Invictus0 1 day ago

      Gpt 2 image is unlimited on a chatgpt pro plan

      • dragonwriter 1 day ago

        Which makes it a clear price win if you already subscribe to Pro for some other reason, otherwise the price crossover where ChatGPT Pro unlimited beats the per-image pricing cited here is 80+ images/day.

    • svachalek 1 day ago

      gpt-2-image has such a yellow tinge though. It stands out badly on nearly any screen. The image quality is great otherwise, but I generally prefer nano banana for its color balance.

      • vunderba 1 day ago

        True but it’s at least addressable with some basic tone-mapping changes. It’s easier to correct an issue like this than to deal with an image that simply doesn’t follow your prompt.

        Here's a quick trend of the "piss filter" in the gpt image series:

        https://imgpb.com/vCZidh

        • CamperBob2 1 day ago

          Not a great test case, considering how much of the artwork in-distribution for that type of image will have age-yellowed lacquer.

          • vunderba 1 day ago

            Oh yeah, that’s a good point I’ll generate some images of a theoretical earth with a solar system bathed in the light of a K-type orange dwarf star instead. :)

            I have some other examples of it as well that aren't going to be potentially contaminated by that late 18th century / early 19th century tintype-esque training data.

            https://imgpb.com/vTUHo

  • DANmode 1 day ago

    Less than 10% is meaningful?

    If these were processors, I wouldn’t spend another hundred on the faster one…

    • minimaxir 1 day ago

      The scores are pairwise ELO rankings, not simple metric scores.

  • vunderba 1 day ago

    As I’ve said before, I wouldn’t put a lot of stock in Arena’s scoring system. They have MAI Image 2.5 ranked above Gemini Nano Banana Pro, and maybe that’s true on paper but good luck using it. Microsoft’s censorship makes Google feel like the wild west by comparison.

    They also have Meta’s Muse Image ranked above NB Pro, which is just patently absurd. In my own GenAI benchmark it only managed a lackluster 7 passes out of 15. Even the open‑weight Ideogram 4 scored higher than that.

    For reference, here’s GPT‑Image‑2, NB Pro, and Muse compared:

    https://genai-showdown.specr.net/?models=nbp,g2,mi

    • nrightnour 1 day ago

      The photo rankings on this page are so absurd that the only reasonable explanation is that they were judged by an AI.

      • minimaxir 1 day ago

        The rankings are for prompt adherence, not subjective quality.

phildougherty 1 day ago

is this going to get released on huggingface or is it cloud/hosted only?

  • uniclaude 1 day ago

    The page lists it as "No" for open source, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

    • cubefox 1 day ago

      The page does not mention open source.

      • john_strinlai 1 day ago

        >The page does not mention open source.

        on the right-hand side, it says:

        "Version Tag: MAJOR

        Open Source: No

        Updated: Jul 20, 2026"

        • cubefox 1 day ago

          It doesn't for me.

          • DANmode 1 day ago

            Are you on mobile? Doesn’t seem to show on mobile.

            • cubefox 1 day ago

              Yes, even if I enable "desktop mode".

          • tingletech 1 day ago

            you have to have either a tall viewport or scroll to the bottom of the page

  • vunderba 1 day ago

    Given that Qwen Image 2 didn’t even get an open-weight release, I really doubt we’re going to see any kind of open release for it. They seem to have completely shifted over to proprietary models sadly.

  • pixelesque 1 day ago

    They promised weights for Qwen Image 2 around 6 months ago and there's still nothing, so wouldn't get your hopes up...

tingletech 1 day ago

When I tried to sign up for Qwen last month (after getting an ad on youtube), after entering my credit card for a "free" trial, Alibaba wanted me to upload a picture of my driver's license to be able to use it! I almost sold by BABA.

saltysalt 1 day ago

Will be interesting to see if they release the weights for local deployments. I love running Flux2 locally via ComfyUI.

  • Eueudhsbsj32 1 day ago

    I doubt any labs will be releasing weights for frontier image models.

    Why would they want to deal with the amount of bad press they'll get for unsavory porn? Look at what happened to Grok.

    • minimaxir 1 day ago

      Minimax just released the weights for a video model (https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-H3) that apparently only has limited safeguards.

      • CamperBob2 1 day ago

        If it has any safeguards at all, I don't think they've been found yet... and /r/unstablediffusion has been trying.

      • Eueudhsbsj32 1 day ago

        I forgot about that.. I'm surprised China allowed them to release that. Surely it will only increase the likelihood and severity of western restrictions on Chinese open models.

        Unless they see it as a way to stoke anti-AI sentiment in the west and further polarize us..

        • dannyw 1 day ago

          There's plenty of sites/APIs providing (actually) uncensored Seedance / Seedream models from ByteDance, which I find surprising too.

          Yes, they're real Seedance, no refusals.

themanmaran 1 day ago

Pretty annoying user experience trying to test out the model on the official Qwen site. You get an immediate popup with "Security Notice: For security purposes, please add a payment method" that blocks you from clicking anywhere.

Honestly if you're launching a new model, you should probably just make it free for the 24 hours after launch so people can test it out. Otherwise just wait till it's on openrouter.

  • bayesianbot 1 day ago

    And now you got 90% of the people saying the model sucks as it timed out while serving them

  • CamperBob2 1 day ago

    Not a great time to announce a pile of closed-weight excuses and locked gates when MiniMax-H3 just dropped.

    Qwen lost some key people after 3.6 and it looks like we're seeing the consequences of that, or perhaps the cause.

storywatch 1 day ago

What's the difference between Qwen Cloud and Alibaba Cloud? Same company?

  • npn 1 day ago

    Similar to aistudio vs vertex.

    Or rather, Alibaba cloud is equivalent to google cloud or aws.

causal 1 day ago

Old news, no?

  • minimaxir 1 day ago

    The model was added to OpenRouter yesterday.

asveikau 1 day ago

Seems like the title order is incorrect at the time of this comment. It says Qwen 3.0 Image, but it's Qwen Image 3.0.