WhyNotHugo 1 hour ago

The outstanding thing about these sanctions is that there's no due process: the accuser is the jury and judge. You don't need to be found guilty, or even charged to be sanction. The impact is deep, and global.

Each of these sanctions is sending a really strong signal to the world: "stop relying on anything US".

  • TitaRusell 44 minutes ago

    That's just American culture no? Americans hate discussions, meetings and deliberations. They want a strong leader telling everyone what to do and then everyone jumps up to do it.

    The US technically has a parliament but it's function is largely ceremonial.

  • hulitu 40 minutes ago

    > Each of these sanctions is sending a really strong signal to the world: "stop relying on anything US".

    Funny that this thing happened _only_ after Trump came to power. US has been doing such things from some time but nobody noticed it. Nowadays it is even exporting this.

mdp2021 1 hour ago

> violent

The mentioned entity is making accusations: the point could be that an authoritative institutional judgement is missing (at list in the article) to establish a responsibility.

In fact, the target's rebuttal was «false allegations made by a politically desperate administration with the sole intention of swaying people and media attention away from their own violence and warmongering».

> our civilization

The mentioned entity is making boasting statements: again more justifications should be provided in order to make the stated less perplexing.

ktallett 2 hours ago

This seems to be a continuation of what has been going on for decades. Obama was far less heavy handed with his method of stating his disdain for services like this but he wanted any communication platform to be readable to the US government, hence the illegal citizen spying program.

We as a group of techy citizens need to keep building applications like this, whatever the designation it gives us.

King-Aaron 4 hours ago

Anything that is not explicitly pro-Trump is now terrorism.

This is the future that is unfolding and yet there is an alarming number of people who are still being dismissive.

  • mdp2021 1 hour ago

    It is not that plain, and it is not limited to the USA.

    Edit:

    > alarming number of people who are still being dismissive

    The "alarming number" of dead people in practical terms here is probably ~99.9995% - if one checks indirect signals.

  • napolux 1 hour ago

    > Anything that is not explicitly pro-Trump is now terrorism.

    They should close instagram (at least half of it) then

  • matej_kosik 46 minutes ago

    Trump's idol Putin has a similar mental shortcut: those who dare to oppose "Russian World" are Nazis.

xeonmc 1 hour ago

This sets the precedence that any entity providing encrypted services who refuses to provide US backdoors can be hit with a terrorist designation, anyone using them becomes criminalized by association. Even Apple would now have to kowtow or face the emperor's wrath.

In 2030: "You have DeltaChat installed on your GrapheneOS phone? Why would you use that unless you're a terrorist? Good citizens use government-blessed choices, like Signal and iPhone once they passed the Freedom2029 compliance mandate."

  • mdp2021 1 hour ago

    > who refused to provide US backdoors

    It is clearly not just that, pls see the article and the allegation.

    > Why would you use that unless you're a terrorist?

    It is already like this: "why would you want privacy, what do you have to hide?" is often repeated.

    Just think of the push towards cashless, in some areas cash is considered antisocial: I have seen fools that should be humble frown in front of it, silently screaming that "every good citizen sends his practices to the twelve largely anonymous private-public data collectors established by european law (and through monetic from the USA)" - the manipulation of the ignorant, in which vilty becomes pride...