croemer 8 hours ago

I typed some German and it was breaking up words so much more than English. Not really surprising given tokenizers are optimized for most commonly used text.

Here's the token efficiency of a corpus translated into various languages and tokenized with the latest OpenAI one:

  Language              Relative tokens
  --------------------------------------
  English                    1.00x
  Portuguese                 1.23x
  Chinese (Simplified)       1.25x
  German                     1.31x
  Spanish                    1.32x
  French                     1.37x
  Arabic                     1.38x
  Chinese (Traditional)      1.42x
  Korean                     1.47x
  Swahili                    1.49x
  Hindi                      1.57x
  Japanese                   1.66x
  Burmese                    3.16x
  Amharic                    5.78x
  Santali                   13.70x

Source: "Tokenizer Fairness in 2026", a reproduction/extension of Petrov, La Malfa, Torr & Bibi, "Language Model Tokenizers Introduce Unfairness Between Languages" (NeurIPS 2023), using FLORES-200.

https://github.com/partyfly/tokenizer-fairness-2026

Applejinx 11 minutes ago

I typed the first stanza of 'Jabberwocky'.

Worked about as well as expected :D

dTal 21 hours ago

This page reliably hangs Firefox 155 at 100% CPU for me.

  • ampdot 18 hours ago

    I did most of my testing in Firefox 156 and it's fine for me

  • devindotcom 9 hours ago

    smooth as butter on 152 in windows 10, as long as we're all reporting

  • bbor 7 hours ago

    Yeah this site has a severe issue of some kind that I don't think I've ever seen before. NGL, I'm pretty impressed! It takes so much compute that scrolling lags, which feels very, very strange

nxtfari 20 hours ago

Haha this did help me generate empathy for the assistant. Neat idea.

LoganDark 22 hours ago

The kerning is absolutely awful in Safari. Looks fine in Chrome though...

kittikitti 16 hours ago

I wonder how this would look in Chinese Mandarin.

  • fyredge 10 hours ago

    Completely the same as regular text, except punctuations are centered instead of staying at the bottom of the line. CJK Han likely encodes tokens to character one on one. Which brings an interesting question, are Chinese characters more efficient for NLP? In the sense that semantic meaning of a word is not chopped up into partial "tokens".

    • altairprime 7 hours ago

      Perhaps relevant: Chinese language is not more efficient than English in vibe coding: A preliminary study on token cost and problem-solving rate https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.14210v1

      • fyredge 5 hours ago

        This is interesting, thank you. It also reinforces the stocastic parrot theory of LLM. Maybe one mythical day when the majority of codebases around the world are written in CJK Han, vibe coding will become more efficient in Chinese

    • numpad0 4 hours ago

      I think the demo font might not have Chinese characters at all. Most Latin fonts don't include CJK, and the system will fill in missing characters with available Chinese fonts. CJK fonts OTOH do include Latin characters.

      As for tokenizers - I reckon that most of them are not optimized for CJK; they're good enough, and AI performance in CJK languages, so far, haven't been the top priority matter.