> “And a whole wave of new terminals and "agentic" coding tools, such as herdr and cmux, have been built on it rather than writing yet another emulator.”
Mitchell could have easily snuck his competing product Rex in there but resisted. Respect.
I’m using the beta. So far so good. I’m swapping between that and Herdr. Anyone who writes macOS apps take notes on Rex’s onboarding. It was so easy to enable/grant permissions.
The whole app is so incredibly satisfying and feels polished, down to every last button and animation. Buttery smooth, feels completely native. Better than some first-party macOS apps IMHO.
No, he does, and it's extremely good. It's completely replaced herdr for me and I run it on Linux (server), macOS, and my iPhone. I've yet to run into a bug. Access is being controlled via Discord and TestFlight - you can find the link to apply on their site.
I like Rex and have started using it and its replacing Ghostty for me. This has made me a bit confused: is the intent for Rex to replace Ghostty? not sure when I would use one vs the other yet
I suspect Ghostty is to Rex what Chromium is to Google Chrome (without all the negative connotations that is, I’m a happy Rex user!): both something of a tech demo for libghostty, and an open source, basic-but-fully-featured terminal emulator. Rex, then, will possibly be a paid product at some point, and adds features like the server, agent integration, and persistent session management on top.
If you had asked me two years ago if I was ready to pay for my terminal and quit my jetbrains subscription, I’d have laughed. Now I’m earnestly ready for that if Superlogical were to announce a paid plan.
I'm currently working on my own Zig project (an interpreter) and right now I'm working on designing a C interface for it. Seeing things mentioned like having objects as opaque handles, or enum-keyed getters and setters, made me think about how clunky my current API is, since I leak too many details to callers.
What really caught my attention was this: "So from the start, I took inspiration from C libraries I enjoyed working with and designed the API to have a strong, stable ABI that allows for future additions." What are good examples of this? I feel like I just don't have enough experience with well-designed C libraries to know what to look for.
If you have structs that might need to be extended, you can use "versioned structs". One popular technique is to include the struct size as the first field. The struct size is set to `offsetof(mystruct, lastmember) + sizeof(lastmember)` and the receiver of the struct can use this to check if a member exists. The ARA API is a good example: https://github.com/Celemony/ARA_API/blob/65ec5c43b943a48cb54...
Libghostty is a very cool project, this is an exciting release, kudos to mitchellh for spearheading this as well as all the people who have made contributions to the project. I use ghostty as my primary terminal emulator today and a few months ago I was experimenting with using libghostty in an android project that I plan to jump back to someday when I have the time, so I personally benefit from this work.
Indeed it is. It feels like libghostty was only announced yesterday and already there are things like ghostel for emacs that are imo far above and beyond the other emacs terminal options.
Ghostel is the first Emacs terminal emulator I've used that really just worked. Vterm and EAT were nice at for time but it's like night and day to Ghostel.
One area where Ghostty really shines is with fancy TUI programs like the pi agent. Pi has a relatively recent tuiMode "fullscreen" feature, and it's been exceptional. Showing inline images with the Kitty graphics protocol has been a huge improvement too -- I love it when a model calls `read` on an image file and I get to see the results in my terminal. The OSC-8 hyperlink support very handy too. Viewport scrolling is super fast, and pi can hide/show the scrollbar as you need it.
> Every bug any libghostty-vt embedder reports makes everyone else in the ecosystem better. Every feature we ship in libghostty-vt becomes available to everyone quickly and safely. Terminals can move faster with less fragmentation.
Can anyone give a comparison to libvte? There are many terminals that are just thin wrapper around that (gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal, mate-terminal, lxterminal, sakura, …). It is tied to GTK, so it has a much narrower scope. But still it feels related in spirit.
Libghostty is such an awesome project, I didn't myself understand the vision a year ago but I've since then been working on my own terminal project using Libghostty and it really does just work and save me such a tremendous amount of work. Kudos to all the contributors!
Search and tmux integration are where iTerm2 really shines imo. I use Ghostty 99% of the time now though. (Search did get a lot better with the latest release.) What features specifically keep you on iTerm2?
In what way did search get better for you with 1.4? The hotkeys to navigate search results (Cmd+G / Cmd+Shift+G) don't work for me even with custom keybindings as documented and the search box doesn't get prefilled with current selection - the _only_ two features that I'd ask for besides the actual search working. Were you able to solve these in your setup?
No shade to ghostty btw, it's an amazing product that I use every day. I just have to accept the lack of some of this usability polish.
Aside from the outstanding tmux integration (and search):
- Font rendering (and cell size control) is still better on iTerm2, although Ghostty has been rapidly gaining
- Compact theme with thin titlebar tabs
- Profiles
- Window arrangements
- In-terminal API (which Mitchell has acknowledged as a useful feature)
The iTerm2 settings/preferences are a mixed bag. On the one hand, discoverability and settings search. On the other hand the panel is insane. Also iTerm2 doesn't have Ghostty's straightforward prefs file. I guess I want the best of both worlds: A well-organized settings UI, with search; and a file I can easily neovim.
The documentation for libghostty is great, I'm reading through the guides and examples. It feel like a fun way to build your own terminal emulator GUI in C, Zig, or other languages with C bindings.
Used it to for a terminal emulator plugin for sublime text, works flawlessly, better than Terminus, tmux and interactive programs works out of the box, only limitation came from the poor sublime text plugin API related to mouse events (there is none, so you have to hack)
If you thought building a terminal emulator too hard to add for your project, you no longer have an excuse, libghostty makes it very easy to implement
does anyone have a terminal setup with gorgeous colors/background/etc over ssh without a display manager? Looking for a lightweight server side environment. I keep searching for headless / framebuffer / DRM setups and there seems to be a few out there, wondering if these exist in a practical workflow.
This is a confusing question. If the terminal emulator is using the server's frame buffer, then it is running on the server end. If the terminal emulator is 'over SSH', then the actual terminal emulator runs on the client end.
They are two very different setups, the former being covered by the likes of zhcon, jfbterm, fbpad, and my virtual terminal system; and the latter being a wide range of things depending from what one's desires are on the client.
Most people are in some way constrained in their AI usage, be it a session/week limit or the token pricing. So while you now can definitely build apps on your own you couldn’t before, you still have to make some economic considerations like before: My company is still not in the business of building terminal emulators. Even if an agent takes on the majority of the work to build one for me, I still have to invest some time and focus into directing it where I want it to go; it’s using up a big chunk of my usage limits if I want something anywhere near as polished as ghostty; and like all software, it wants permanent maintenance, bug fixes, and updates. AI doesn’t change any of that.
It’s time for the industry to realize that the weights may have shifted toward build vs. buy, but the general SaaS calculus is still in effect.
There's also https://wintty.io/ which I just learned about. MIT licensed, binary downloads restricted to project sponsors, but buildable from source, allegedly easily (I haven't tried it). Currently 120 stars on GitHub.
He's just starting the project, if you check his page he doesn't even have any binaries yet. So currently it's more like "Hey, subscribe to my Patreon if you want to support my work, and in the future I'll make some bonus content for subscribers when it's ready". Which... well, some people actually do follow through on commitments like that, so really it depends on how well you know and trust the person involved whether you'd want to subscribe to a Patreon like that. Similar principle here, it looks like.
(I have formed no opinion, positive or negative, on WinTTY yet, BTW, so don't take this as either an endorsement or a... whatever the right word for anti-endorsement would be).
I think Ghostty is great for the most part but I keep going back to iTerm2, personally.
iTerm just feel less buggy. For example I was running Claude in a container the other day and the slash command complete wasn’t rendering properly with Ghostty but worked perfectly fine with iTerm.
I want to switch to Ghostty because I prefer how simple Ghostty is overall and I think the project itself is very cool and an important piece of software (libghostty) but it doesn’t quite get there for _for my use cases_.
Related, from the foot side: I've been porting foot (dnkl's Wayland
terminal) natively to macOS: AppKit, CoreText, Core Animation, CPU
rendering like upstream. On top of it I added native tabs, a
Quake-style drop-down terminal and Ghostty-style splits.
What I'm working on now is close to what libghostty enables: a daemon
that runs foot's terminal core headless, so programs keep running when
the app quits or crashes, and windows come back with their scrollback.
Next I want to attach to sessions on other machines over SSH.
"Mitchell Hashimoto is a software developer and entrepreneur best known as the co-founder of HashiCorp, which was acquired by IBM for $6.4 billion in 2025."
Many common ways for the financing of an free and open source project to be sustainable (The main keyword) in the mid to long term:
1) A non-profit company that has full-time employees but supported via sponsorships: (gnu project, mastodon, omarchy, zig)
2) Multiple for-profit companies that each have full-time employees contributing to an open source project that they all use: (ocaml, linux, rust)
3) An ultra high net worth individual that has full-time contributors to open source and supported via a non-profit (signal, ghostty)
4) A for-profit company that has dedicated full-time employees that have full support and own the direction of the open source project (go, swift, java)
Tried libghostty-vt 1.0 as Mudlet's ANSI decoder - no measurable speed gain in tests and its terminal grid doesn't suit a MUD client (UTF-8 only, scrollback can't be edited), but I reckon it'd make a great terminal pane for cursor-addressed game screens.
Curious how stable the public ABI is intended to be now that JetBrains and others are embedding it this quickly. Is the 1.0 promise closer to "API surface won't break" or more "we won't break you without a major version"?
> “And a whole wave of new terminals and "agentic" coding tools, such as herdr and cmux, have been built on it rather than writing yet another emulator.”
Mitchell could have easily snuck his competing product Rex in there but resisted. Respect.
Would be some serious 4d chess if you were his sockpuppet account.
After watching "You can see everything" I now have to stop and think rather than just laughing at your commment.
lol now that I read it back it might seem like that. I’m just a Mitchell Stan.
I'd be happy there even if he did, maybe there's a delayed schedule for Rex to be publicly available.
That's because he doesn't have a product yet
I’m using the beta. So far so good. I’m swapping between that and Herdr. Anyone who writes macOS apps take notes on Rex’s onboarding. It was so easy to enable/grant permissions.
The whole app is so incredibly satisfying and feels polished, down to every last button and animation. Buttery smooth, feels completely native. Better than some first-party macOS apps IMHO.
No, he does, and it's extremely good. It's completely replaced herdr for me and I run it on Linux (server), macOS, and my iPhone. I've yet to run into a bug. Access is being controlled via Discord and TestFlight - you can find the link to apply on their site.
I like Rex and have started using it and its replacing Ghostty for me. This has made me a bit confused: is the intent for Rex to replace Ghostty? not sure when I would use one vs the other yet
Ghostty- maybe, but not libghostty.
I suspect Ghostty is to Rex what Chromium is to Google Chrome (without all the negative connotations that is, I’m a happy Rex user!): both something of a tech demo for libghostty, and an open source, basic-but-fully-featured terminal emulator. Rex, then, will possibly be a paid product at some point, and adds features like the server, agent integration, and persistent session management on top. If you had asked me two years ago if I was ready to pay for my terminal and quit my jetbrains subscription, I’d have laughed. Now I’m earnestly ready for that if Superlogical were to announce a paid plan.
I'm currently working on my own Zig project (an interpreter) and right now I'm working on designing a C interface for it. Seeing things mentioned like having objects as opaque handles, or enum-keyed getters and setters, made me think about how clunky my current API is, since I leak too many details to callers.
What really caught my attention was this: "So from the start, I took inspiration from C libraries I enjoyed working with and designed the API to have a strong, stable ABI that allows for future additions." What are good examples of this? I feel like I just don't have enough experience with well-designed C libraries to know what to look for.
One example that comes to my mind is libopus: https://github.com/xiph/opus
If you have structs that might need to be extended, you can use "versioned structs". One popular technique is to include the struct size as the first field. The struct size is set to `offsetof(mystruct, lastmember) + sizeof(lastmember)` and the receiver of the struct can use this to check if a member exists. The ARA API is a good example: https://github.com/Celemony/ARA_API/blob/65ec5c43b943a48cb54...
Libghostty is a very cool project, this is an exciting release, kudos to mitchellh for spearheading this as well as all the people who have made contributions to the project. I use ghostty as my primary terminal emulator today and a few months ago I was experimenting with using libghostty in an android project that I plan to jump back to someday when I have the time, so I personally benefit from this work.
Indeed it is. It feels like libghostty was only announced yesterday and already there are things like ghostel for emacs that are imo far above and beyond the other emacs terminal options.
As of recently, the embedded terminal in Jetbrains IDEs is also based on libghostty.
And it has been such an upgrade.
There was so many little things that bugs me with JediTerm, unsupported escape sequences, bugged visualization, truncated output, you name it.
Now it just work, like it supposed to.
Yesss! Finally I can run nvim +term inside the Emacs frame and then call emacs -nw in there. Matryoshkamacs is the dream. We all live in a simulation.
You emacs people are so weird.
I'm a vimmer. I use Emacs only because it vims better.
ghostel makes vterm feel so sad!
Ghostel is the first Emacs terminal emulator I've used that really just worked. Vterm and EAT were nice at for time but it's like night and day to Ghostel.
One area where Ghostty really shines is with fancy TUI programs like the pi agent. Pi has a relatively recent tuiMode "fullscreen" feature, and it's been exceptional. Showing inline images with the Kitty graphics protocol has been a huge improvement too -- I love it when a model calls `read` on an image file and I get to see the results in my terminal. The OSC-8 hyperlink support very handy too. Viewport scrolling is super fast, and pi can hide/show the scrollbar as you need it.
Though zooming images is not there yet, is very need feature indeed.
> Every bug any libghostty-vt embedder reports makes everyone else in the ecosystem better. Every feature we ship in libghostty-vt becomes available to everyone quickly and safely. Terminals can move faster with less fragmentation.
Can anyone give a comparison to libvte? There are many terminals that are just thin wrapper around that (gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal, mate-terminal, lxterminal, sakura, …). It is tied to GTK, so it has a much narrower scope. But still it feels related in spirit.
Libghostty is such an awesome project, I didn't myself understand the vision a year ago but I've since then been working on my own terminal project using Libghostty and it really does just work and save me such a tremendous amount of work. Kudos to all the contributors!
Libghostty made the best terminal for Emacs possible (Ghostel). Thank you Mitchell.
I'm still on iTerm2, simply because it just seems to work and has all the features I want
Occasionally I'll check out other terms people rave about. Tried kitty, wezterm, and a few others a while back, but wound up coming back to iterm.
Still, really happy to see things like this gaining traction. An easy way to implement high performance terminals in any application is a boon
Search and tmux integration are where iTerm2 really shines imo. I use Ghostty 99% of the time now though. (Search did get a lot better with the latest release.) What features specifically keep you on iTerm2?
In what way did search get better for you with 1.4? The hotkeys to navigate search results (Cmd+G / Cmd+Shift+G) don't work for me even with custom keybindings as documented and the search box doesn't get prefilled with current selection - the _only_ two features that I'd ask for besides the actual search working. Were you able to solve these in your setup?
No shade to ghostty btw, it's an amazing product that I use every day. I just have to accept the lack of some of this usability polish.
Aside from the outstanding tmux integration (and search):
The iTerm2 settings/preferences are a mixed bag. On the one hand, discoverability and settings search. On the other hand the panel is insane. Also iTerm2 doesn't have Ghostty's straightforward prefs file. I guess I want the best of both worlds: A well-organized settings UI, with search; and a file I can easily neovim.
Image support is much better in iterm2, you can open them, save them - then you can easily download any file. And fonts also look much nicer.
Recent interview with Hashimoto: https://alexalejandre.com/interviews/interview-with-mitchell...
The documentation for libghostty is great, I'm reading through the guides and examples. It feel like a fun way to build your own terminal emulator GUI in C, Zig, or other languages with C bindings.
https://lib.ghostty.org/vt/example-programs.html
It also looks useful for testing and developing text interfaces (TUI), like file navigator, editor, dashboard, etc.
Great stuff, congrats to mitchellh and the other Ghostty devs!
Kwi's (a KDE embedder) CI/CD and its Flatpak builds/repo have moved to the new version.
Wow. This is how you write a library.
Used it to for a terminal emulator plugin for sublime text, works flawlessly, better than Terminus, tmux and interactive programs works out of the box, only limitation came from the poor sublime text plugin API related to mouse events (there is none, so you have to hack)
If you thought building a terminal emulator too hard to add for your project, you no longer have an excuse, libghostty makes it very easy to implement
does anyone have a terminal setup with gorgeous colors/background/etc over ssh without a display manager? Looking for a lightweight server side environment. I keep searching for headless / framebuffer / DRM setups and there seems to be a few out there, wondering if these exist in a practical workflow.
This is a confusing question. If the terminal emulator is using the server's frame buffer, then it is running on the server end. If the terminal emulator is 'over SSH', then the actual terminal emulator runs on the client end.
They are two very different setups, the former being covered by the likes of zhcon, jfbterm, fbpad, and my virtual terminal system; and the latter being a wide range of things depending from what one's desires are on the client.
an early christmas present, thanks mitch and team
congrats to mitchell and team!
In the world of AI (slop or not),
why won’t people write their own subset of terminal emulators, just for their own need?
Probably faster without waiting for 3rd party to fix bugs and merge patches, no?
Most people are in some way constrained in their AI usage, be it a session/week limit or the token pricing. So while you now can definitely build apps on your own you couldn’t before, you still have to make some economic considerations like before: My company is still not in the business of building terminal emulators. Even if an agent takes on the majority of the work to build one for me, I still have to invest some time and focus into directing it where I want it to go; it’s using up a big chunk of my usage limits if I want something anywhere near as polished as ghostty; and like all software, it wants permanent maintenance, bug fixes, and updates. AI doesn’t change any of that.
It’s time for the industry to realize that the weights may have shifted toward build vs. buy, but the general SaaS calculus is still in effect.
In the age of perpetual 0.x software, it's nice to see a well-known project get to 1.0
Agreed. I feel like too much projects are too reluctant to take the responsibility to say "this is production ready".
Software is either 0.0.12 or 20x6.99
And we still don't have Ghostty for Windows
There are several third-party Windows ports:
- Noctty (~517 stars)
- GhosttyWin3
- ghostty-windows (~79 stars)
There's also https://wintty.io/ which I just learned about. MIT licensed, binary downloads restricted to project sponsors, but buildable from source, allegedly easily (I haven't tried it). Currently 120 stars on GitHub.
charging for binaries is bold. wonder how he generated enough hype for that to work?
He's just starting the project, if you check his page he doesn't even have any binaries yet. So currently it's more like "Hey, subscribe to my Patreon if you want to support my work, and in the future I'll make some bonus content for subscribers when it's ready". Which... well, some people actually do follow through on commitments like that, so really it depends on how well you know and trust the person involved whether you'd want to subscribe to a Patreon like that. Similar principle here, it looks like.
(I have formed no opinion, positive or negative, on WinTTY yet, BTW, so don't take this as either an endorsement or a... whatever the right word for anti-endorsement would be).
I use it on Windows all the time, just use a community solution or roll your own
Use Windows Terminal. Nearly a match for Ghostty on Windows. Well, it's Windows
The only thing I miss from WezTerm is the super configurable cursor (because of course I need a pulsating one)
I’m curious why they chose to use C for this as opposed to Zig with a c like interface.
it's Zig with a C ABI
Yeah, Mitchell's description is very confusing.
Does that mean that it won't be packaged for Debian until zig is also stable? (see https://gracefulliberty.com/articles/four-months-of-zig/#bet...)
And a C API
https://lib.ghostty.org/vt/files.html
It's Zig
It’s Zog with a C ABI. Zig bindings are a bit of a moving target still.
libghostty has been awesome for tui-test, excited for the stable api
What's better, iTerm2 or Ghostty?
What's better, an apple or an orange?
Depends.
My grandma uses those!
I think Ghostty is great for the most part but I keep going back to iTerm2, personally.
iTerm just feel less buggy. For example I was running Claude in a container the other day and the slash command complete wasn’t rendering properly with Ghostty but worked perfectly fine with iTerm.
I want to switch to Ghostty because I prefer how simple Ghostty is overall and I think the project itself is very cool and an important piece of software (libghostty) but it doesn’t quite get there for _for my use cases_.
iTerm2 has way more features and configuration options
Ghostty is simpler and faster
Foot ( https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot )
What's better? Only works for some or works for anyone?
I used iTerm2 until I noticed that Ghostty’s New Tab opens at the current working directory.
Haven’t gone back since.
You can configure iterm2 to do whatever you want in new tabs or panes. This feature has been available for over a decade.
I have it reuse the same directory in a new pane. And my home directory in a new tab.
You can set that in iterm 2. I've had it that way for ages
Oh right, it didn’t work for me because it depends on edits to my shell config files that didn’t work in my setup.
I suppose my accolade is that Ghostty just does what I want without hunting through config screens and managing file edits.
Related, from the foot side: I've been porting foot (dnkl's Wayland terminal) natively to macOS: AppKit, CoreText, Core Animation, CPU rendering like upstream. On top of it I added native tabs, a Quake-style drop-down terminal and Ghostty-style splits.
What I'm working on now is close to what libghostty enables: a daemon that runs foot's terminal core headless, so programs keep running when the app quits or crashes, and windows come back with their scrollback. Next I want to attach to sessions on other machines over SSH.
https://github.com/gobijan/foot-macos
I wonder how the author makes the work financially sustainable.
He's a billionaire, has sponsors and has a startup.
Huh, I was told billionaires are evil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HashiCorp
"Mitchell Hashimoto is a software developer and entrepreneur best known as the co-founder of HashiCorp, which was acquired by IBM for $6.4 billion in 2025."
Many common ways for the financing of an free and open source project to be sustainable (The main keyword) in the mid to long term:
1) A non-profit company that has full-time employees but supported via sponsorships: (gnu project, mastodon, omarchy, zig)
2) Multiple for-profit companies that each have full-time employees contributing to an open source project that they all use: (ocaml, linux, rust)
3) An ultra high net worth individual that has full-time contributors to open source and supported via a non-profit (signal, ghostty)
4) A for-profit company that has dedicated full-time employees that have full support and own the direction of the open source project (go, swift, java)
5) VC funded open source projects (Herdr, Bun, Deno, Burno, Atuin)
All other options such as low donations like "buy me a coffee", ko-fi, are completely unsustainable, now that AI agents exist.
is mitchell hashimoto literally one of the main tanks carrying all of open source right now? what a neat contribution!!!
good one!
This is so fuckin' cool.
Tried libghostty-vt 1.0 as Mudlet's ANSI decoder - no measurable speed gain in tests and its terminal grid doesn't suit a MUD client (UTF-8 only, scrollback can't be edited), but I reckon it'd make a great terminal pane for cursor-addressed game screens.
Curious how stable the public ABI is intended to be now that JetBrains and others are embedding it this quickly. Is the 1.0 promise closer to "API surface won't break" or more "we won't break you without a major version"?