points by trumpdong 15 hours ago

Yes. The EU has no army, no legal sovereignty within each country, etc. It's an alliance of countries NOT a single federal government. The individual countries remain in charge of themselves and the alliance is supposed to be structured in a way that only paases things the countries actually want.

cassianoleal 14 hours ago

So you think it would be better if the EU started a war with a member state that failed to uphold the union's laws?

  • lukan 12 hours ago

    Why would he or she think that? Your questions are close to strawman arguments in my perception.

    • cassianoleal 5 hours ago

      Let's follow the timeline, shall we? It shouldn't be difficult as it's a pretty linear tree in the comments.

      1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423657

      I mentioned that Europe is a lot more than the EU, and even within the EU member countries diverge.

      2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48423908

      trumpdong then makes a comment that I interpret as saying the EU doesn't have a lot of power over member states, and saying that the worst which could happen to one of them is to be kicked out of the EU.

      3. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48424244

      Slightly shocked by the idea that the EU should be doing something worse than expelling a member for not following the Union's rules, I use a _reductio ad absurdum_ and ask if they thought the EU should be harder and actually perform an armed invasion of a member state that didn't follow them.

      4. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425100

      To my shock, trumpdong literally says "yes".

      5. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48425487

      I, due to the shock described above, decide to question again in more words if that's actually what they mean.

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      Hopefully that responds your question. I see no straw man, but if you still do, please present it.